Should We Change The Plaque On The Statue Of Liberty To Reflect Our Current Policy???

PoliTalker said:
Wouldn't it be ironic of Trump decided it should be sold to Germany?

Oh.

How about this.

He makes a deal with Putin.

Or KIM!
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There is no reason it cannot be turned into a for-profit tourist trap and the money used for more pressing concerns. Sell it and Ellis Island.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez,



Of course not. You haven't posted it.
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Not gonna either, :Googler:



This is so typical of conservative thinking. First deny facts. Then create 'alternative facts.' Then get all into a tizzy about the concocted 'alternative facts.'

This is so not the conversation we should be having. But conservatives never want to have that conversation because they know they will lose it. Hence all the 'alternative facts' as a deviation to prevent the conversation from ever being about what it should be about.

In this case, you're denying the fact that immigration is not really a big problem affecting the USA or our economy. It's a manufactured crisis, whipped up to order for the demagogue in the White House.

If LEGAL immigration was really such a big problem for the economy, the economy would not be doing so well. Ya know?
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FTFY, now we agree!
How can you say immigration is hurting the economy when the economy is not hurting? Kind of a self-defeating argument.
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Never said that. Never crossed my mind

But then every demagogue needs a boogie man. And you're stuck with xenophobia over Latin immigrants. It's really a pretty weak argument because we have so many issues of actual importance to the country. I can't be the only liberal just shaking my head at the absurdity of even having this argument when there are so many other real threats to the USA. Just mind boggling. Post any quote you like. I'll read it. But we should really be talking about more important things, matters of direct bearing to our nation.
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And where do you get off putting all those words in my mouth? You see these pictures?:
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I love these guys! They waited in line, they went to classes, they jumped through all the hoops. They did not come here seeking "asylum", for the most part, and the ones that did, they did it by the book. That mob in Tijuana have no claim to anything in this country, and no right to be here. You also said, "In this case, you're denying the fact that immigration is not really a big problem affecting the USA or our economy." Wrong. I totally support and defend the fact that LEGAL immigration is not a problem at all, and has a positive effect on the USA and our economy.
 
Hello Kacper,

Kacper said:
There is no reason it cannot be turned into a for-profit tourist trap and the money used for more pressing concerns. Sell it and Ellis Island.
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Personally I think there is a very good reason that won't happen. I don't think the American people would want to have their symbol of freedom sold to the highest bidder, and lose control of it. Ya really want somebody to turn it into a cheesy theme park with rides, etc? Maybe sell it off if it goes bust? A new owner could possibly sell the statue for scrap metal? Lotta copper there.

But hey. If Republicans want to make that an issue it could work well in Democrat's favor. Go for it. Right now, the best thing that could happen to this nation would be to have Republicans suffer a massive defeat in 2020, and be swept out of office to be replaced by a new generation of young, female and minority Democrats.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Kacper,



Personally I think there is a very good reason that won't happen. I don't think the American people would want to have their symbol of freedom sold to the highest bidder, and lose control of it. Ya really want somebody to turn it into a cheesy theme park with rides, etc? Maybe sell it off if it goes bust? A new owner could possibly sell the statue for scrap metal? Lotta copper there.

But hey. If Republicans want to make that an issue it could work well in Democrat's favor. Go for it. Right now, the best thing that could happen to this nation would be to have Republicans suffer a massive defeat in 2020, and be swept out of office to be replaced by a new generation of young, female and minority Democrats.
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One day you will realize I am not a republican. As for the Statue, it is a tourist trap anyway, might as well add a slide to it.
 
Donnie wants his statue to replace the Statue Of Liberty!

I don't think so!

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Micawber said:
We gifted a prototype back to France which you can see from the Seine.

Two revolutions. Mutual support. One thing certain is it did not stand for isolation and racism.
Freedom from foreigners is not in the visage. I see no repelling sneer or trump wall around her. She is lighting the way
stupid.
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So wait, you’re telling me this was an exchange of gifts with foreigners [shudder]?
 
If the statue's plaque was a governing document I'd say, "Yes." however it is not and this would just be an expensive and useless waste of time.
 
Hello Kacper,

Kacper said:
One day you will realize I am not a republican. As for the Statue, it is a tourist trap anyway, might as well add a slide to it.
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Some things I learn slower than others. And reality being what it is... Making a mistake doesn't necessarily prevent me from making the same mistake again.

It merely allows me to recognize it a little quicker the next time around, right?

.

And despite what you would like to see happen to the Statue of Liberty, I refuse to believe that America really wants to cash it in for whatever meager financial gain might be had. That wuold hardly be a dent in our national budget, and so much lost.

If it doesn't pay for itself right now under public care where it doesn't have to make a profit, how in the world could it possibly generate enough income to do so with the additional burden of having to earn a profit as well?
 
Hello Herb,

hvilleherb said:
No need to spend money rewriting it. People from POS countries are already getting the message they're not wanted here.
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Makes no sense. If that were true why are there still multiple caravans headed toward our borders?

Here's an idea.

Why don't we try to solve the problem which drives them here?

After all, we are partially responsible.

Better to work on on the source of the flow rather than try to stop it in progress.

It's like we are chasing the end of flipping fire hose instead of just turning it off at the valve.

These people know they will not be welcomed, but still they come anyway. What they are leaving must be far worse than what they face to try to make it here. We have to figure out what is driving them away from home and try to change that.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Herb,



Makes no sense. If that were true why are there still multiple caravans headed toward our borders?

Here's an idea.

Why don't we try to solve the problem which drives them here?

After all, we are partially responsible.

Better to work on on the source of the flow rather than try to stop it in progress.

It's like we are chasing the end of flipping fire hose instead of just turning it off at the valve.

These people know they will not be welcomed, but still they come anyway. What they are leaving must be far worse than what they face to try to make it here. We have to figure out what is driving them away from home and try to change that.
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How are we responsible for what happens in their country?
 
Hi Herb,

hvilleherb said:
How are we responsible for what happens in their country?
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We created the gangs with our drug laws.

We gave them power by handing over all of the profits of that market to the black market.

We could have completely eliminated all of their drug profits by making all drugs legal. Tax them and use to proceeds to set up rehab centers.

That's a whole lot cheaper than courts cops and prisons. A lot less government spending, too.

And more effective at fighting drug abuse.

We could make drugs safer and lessen the impacts of drug abuse on our society by taking a whole different approach that cuts off the profits from drug gangs.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Kacper,



Some things I learn slower than others. And reality being what it is... Making a mistake doesn't necessarily prevent me from making the same mistake again.

It merely allows me to recognize it a little quicker the next time around, right?

.

And despite what you would like to see happen to the Statue of Liberty, I refuse to believe that America really wants to cash it in for whatever meager financial gain might be had. That wuold hardly be a dent in our national budget, and so much lost.

If it doesn't pay for itself right now under public care where it doesn't have to make a profit, how in the world could it possibly generate enough income to do so with the additional burden of having to earn a profit as well?
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I never said I would like to see it anything. I would have no problem with selling it though. I don't see it as any different than a confederate statue or an art installation. It is a fetish. It does, however, create about ten times its operating costs in revenues, so I imagine a lot of people would be interested in owning it for that reason alone.
 
Good morning Kacper,

Kacper said:
I never said I would like to see it anything. I would have no problem with selling it though. I don't see it as any different than a confederate statue or an art installation. It is a fetish. It does, however, create about ten times its operating costs in revenues, so I imagine a lot of people would be interested in owning it for that reason alone.
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If it is a money-maker, why on Earth would we even CONSIDER letting it go? It's not logical. If it were sold off to a private entity we would all have to pay more taxes to keep up with the increased federal debt. Bad idea.
 
PoliTalker said:
Good morning Kacper,



If it is a money-maker, why on Earth would we even CONSIDER letting it go? It's not logical. If it were sold off to a private entity we would all have to pay more taxes to keep up with the increased federal debt. Bad idea.
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So you think a fetish is more important than feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, preserving nature, cleaning up a toxic waste dump, etc etc etc. I am more pragmatic. It is a stupid statue and even it private hands, it would create tax revenue.
 
Kacper said:
So you think a fetish is more important than feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, preserving nature, cleaning up a toxic waste dump, etc etc etc. I am more pragmatic. It is a stupid statue and even it private hands, it would create tax revenue.
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We don't have to choose between those two artificially set conditions. We can do all of those good things and have our Statue symbolizing our independence, too.
 
Kacper said:
Rationalizing your idolatry. The French gave it to us to honor our alliance with them.
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And we went out into the community to raise the money to put it up.

We didn't tax anybody to do it.

The American people chipped in and paid for it.

You are entitled to your view, but so are all of we who like it.
 
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