Saudi Prince/ex-AMBAS to US: 'CIA can't be trusted re murder, why isn't it ON TRIAL?'

[Centerleftfl]

This is getting sicker, more despicable and dangerous by the day! Who the fuck does he think he is tell us that? On US soil? How about EMPOWERED!! Trump has given him permission, expressly or implicitly. Trump BETTER DAMN WELL keep his fingers off his fucking twitter account nor get near a microphone and respond to this one. (BUT I PRAY HE DOES!)

“I don’t see why the CIA is not on trial in the United States. This is my answer to their assessment
of who is guilty and who is not and who did what in the consulate in Istanbul.”​​

Senior Saudi prince says CIA cannot be trusted on Khashoggi conclusion


REUTERS
24 NOV 2018 AT 08:15 ET

US President Donald Trump and Saudi Deputy Crown Prince and Defense Minister Mohammed bin Salman shake hands at the White House on March 14, 2017.

A senior Saudi prince cast doubt upon the reported CIA finding that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last month, saying the agency could not be counted on to reach a credible conclusion.

“The CIA is not necessarily the highest standard of veracity or accuracy in assessing situations. The examples of that are multitude,” Prince Turki al-Faisal, a senior member of the royal family, told journalists in Abu Dhabi on Saturday.

The prince, a former Saudi intelligence chief who has also served as ambassador to the United States, said the agency’s conclusion that Iraq possessed chemical weapons before the U.S. invasion in 2003 showed it could be unreliable.

“That was the most glaring of inaccurate and wrong assessments, which led to a full-scale war with thousands being killed,” he said, speaking at an event hosted by the New York-based Beirut Institute.

“I don’t see why the CIA is not on trial in the United States. This is my answer to their assessment of who is guilty and who is not and who did what in the consulate in Istanbul.”

The CIA has concluded that Prince Mohammed ordered the operation to kill Khashoggi, as first reported by the Washington Post, and briefed other parts of the U.S. government on its findings, sources told Reuters last week...

Senior Saudi prince says CIA cannot be trusted on Khashoggi conclusion

 

[kudzu]

I like Prince Turki al-Faisal.. He's very smart and very experienced.

 

[Jack]

Hopefully the new Democratic House will do SOMETHING.

 

[Sailor]

Hopefully the new Democratic House will do SOMETHING.

Are you shitting me? This is going to be nothing but two years of grandstanding, witch hunts and doing absolutely nothing to keep America moving ahead.

 

[moon]

Are you shitting me? This is going to be nothing but two years of grandstanding, witch hunts and doing absolutely nothing to keep America moving ahead.

Do you believe that brutal murder should be ignored for the sake of arms deals ?

Oh wait.....of course you do. You're an Izrael buff. Temporary president Trump is too.

 

[kudzu]

Do you believe that brutal murder should be ignored for the sake of arms deals ?

Oh wait.....of course you do. You're an Izrael buff. Temporary president Trump is too.

Trump lied about the arms deal..

 

[Sailor]

Do you believe that brutal murder should be ignored for the sake of arms deals ?

Oh wait.....of course you do. You're an Izrael buff. Temporary president Trump is too.

Actions have consequences Moon. Personally I fail to see why the U.S. should change its policies for what happened to a non American citizen. If this guy was a real journalist he knew the potential for what might happen.

 

[Jack]

Are you shitting me? This is going to be nothing but two years of grandstanding, witch hunts and doing absolutely nothing to keep America moving ahead.

Should we be encouraging the Saudis to kill people (like Reporters) that have a different opinion? Should we excuse Putin for murdering his Opponents? How about Kim Jung-Un? Just turn a blind eye to it? Or at least make a comment in condemnation.

 

[Sailor]

Should we be encouraging the Saudis to kill people (like Reporters) that have a different opinion? Should we excuse Putin for murdering his Opponents? How about Kim Jung-Un? Just turn a blind eye to it? Or at least make a comment in condemnation.

No. In truth though this has nothing, zero, zip to do with American policies. This is one non American citizen. We do not make changes in our own policies in this entire country for the murder of just one of our own citizens, let alone thousands.

 

[moon]

Actions have consequences Moon. Personally I fail to see why the U.S. should change its policies for what happened to a non American citizen. If this guy was a real journalist he knew the potential for what might happen.

What did Gaddafi do to Americans ? What did Saddam do to Americans ? Both were killed for ' Izrael's security '- and that's why the degenerate Sauds are being let off the hook by a degenerate Trump. How much more will America suffer for those fascist neoZionist criminals ?

 

[Sailor]

What did Gaddafi do to Americans ? What did Saddam do to Americans ? Both were killed for ' Izrael's security '- and that's why the degenerate Sauds are being let off the hook by a degenerate Trump. How much more will America suffer for those fascist neoZionist criminals ?

America does not have to suffer at all.

 

[Jack]

No. In truth though this has nothing, zero, zip to do with American policies. This is one non American citizen. We do not make changes in our own policies in this entire country for the murder of just one of our own citizens, let alone thousands.

The USA supports 'Free Speech'. It's a Policy. Been around for awhile.
Governments that have a DIFFERENT Policy, Governments that Kill Reporters, Governments that DON'T have 'Free Speech', ... are countries we Condemn when they violate Human Rights.

I'm a little surprised YOU support Governments that KILL people they find 'distasteful'.

 

[moon]

America does not have to suffer at all.

Tell me how many Americans are disabled as a result of the Iraq invasion . Tell me how many are dead. Wtf are you saying.

 

[Sailor]

Tell me how many Americans are disabled as a result of the Iraq invasion . Tell me how many are dead. Wtf are you saying.

No need to talk to me about any of that Moon. What does any of that have to do with one dead non American journalist? Not jack fuck.

 

[Sailor]

The USA supports 'Free Speech'. It's a Policy. Been around for awhile.
Governments that have a DIFFERENT Policy, Governments that Kill Reporters, Governments that DON'T have 'Free Speech', ... are countries we Condemn when they violate Human Rights.

I'm a little surprised YOU support Governments that KILL people they find 'distasteful'.

I do not support them at all. All I am doing is putting things into perspective here. Much more violence, murder and mayhem occurs around this world daily and nothing is done. Genocide of millions of people occurs, rarely is something done. This is one murder, worldwide. In the scheme of things it is totally irrelevant.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Are you shitting me? This is going to be nothing but two years of grandstanding, witch hunts and doing absolutely nothing to keep America moving ahead.

Or do anything about our partnering with murderous regimes, which is the real point, we'll ignore anything for $ and genocidal partners. The ruling aristocracy needs to get to the point where they can do the same here without too much pushback. First the public must be desensitized to the taking out of an america resident critical journalist, then it can move onto the taking out of an america citizen critical journalist by the power of the corporate state. And yes, it’s all bipartisan.

Fweedumb.

 

[Jack]

I do not support them at all. All I am doing is putting things into perspective here. Much more violence, murder and mayhem occurs around this world daily and nothing is done. Genocide of millions of people occurs, rarely is something done. This is one murder, worldwide. In the scheme of things it is totally irrelevant.

WRONG!

This PREMEDITATED MURDER occurred in an Embassy. THAT'S pretty bold and announces a State (Saudi Arabia) Policy of Killing Reporters or anyone else they don't like. Similar to Putin 'reaching out' and killing ex-spies in Britain with poisons, or Kim Jung-Un killing a half-brother in Indonesia.

The USA CONDEMNS these OBVIOUS Human Rights violations ALL THE TIME.

1. Trump (and YOU) are announcing he supports the State abusing it's Power over it's Citizens.
2. Trump (and YOU) are announcing that 'Money Talks'. "If you have enough Money, you can Kill Anyone, and we'll Ignore It".

 

[Sailor]

WRONG!

This PREMEDITATED MURDER occurred in an Embassy. THAT'S pretty bold and announces a State (Saudi Arabia) Policy of Killing Reporters or anyone else they don't like. Similar to Putin 'reaching out' and killing ex-spies in Britain with poisons, or Kim Jung-Un killing a half-brother in Indonesia.

The USA CONDEMNS these OBVIOUS Human Rights violations ALL THE TIME.

1. Trump (and YOU) are announcing he supports the State abusing it's Power over it's Citizens.
2. Trump (and YOU) are announcing that 'Money Talks'. "If you have enough Money, you can Kill Anyone, and we'll Ignore It".

No it is not wrong. It is not a U.S. embassy. He was not an American. Quite frankly, fuck him. This has nothing to do with human rights. The guy took on something much bigger than him. He paid the price. Once again, actions have consequences. This is not a U.S. problem. Never was.

 

[Jack]

No it is not wrong. It is not a U.S. embassy. He was not an American. Quite frankly, fuck him. This has nothing to do with human rights. The guy took on something much bigger than him. He paid the price. Once again, actions have consequences. This is not a U.S. problem. Never was.

(shaking head) Americans, and America, support Human Rights Worldwide. I'm not sure where you are from, but HERE, we condemn Human Rights abuses. We may not be able to do anything about it, we may continue to do 'trade' with the Offending Countries, ... we, at the minimum, let our voices be heard and we PROMOTE the Ideas of America. 'Free Speech' being one of them.

(Sailor, if you have learned to read English yet, you should read the Bill of Rights and maybe a little something about our Founding Fathers and what their Vision was)

 

[kudzu]

(shaking head) Americans, and America, support Human Rights Worldwide. I'm not sure where you are from, but HERE, we condemn Human Rights abuses. We may not be able to do anything about it, we may continue to do 'trade' with the Offending Countries, ... we, at the minimum, let our voices be heard and we PROMOTE the Ideas of America. 'Free Speech' being one of them.

(Sailor, if you have learned to read English yet, you should read the Bill of Rights and maybe a little something about our Founding Fathers and what their Vision was)

Do you know what Khashoggi advocated?