Ronald Reagan said, "We are One Nation Under God"

[Cypress]

He was instrumental in its demise. Now tell me Obama didn't end the Iraq War and Biden the Afghanistan War.

I think his role was no different than Eisenhower, Nixon, or Kennedy. They all were practicing the Truman doctrine of containment. The USSR ultimately flew apart at the seams because of internal problems that had lingered for decades

 

[Cypress]

this crap sounds just as contrived as die hard leftists like evince trying to tell us that the revolutionary war started because of taxes, not attempts to confiscate guns.

Raising the US defense budget by 20 percent did not cause the USSR to collapse. Only Americans could possibly think people could be that weak and feeble.

Soviet citizens were willing to eat rats and sawdust rather than surrender to the enemy hordes at the gates of Leningrad.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think his role was no different than Eisenhower, Nixon, or Kennedy. They all were practicing the Truman doctrine of containment. The USSR ultimately flew apart at the seams because of internal problems that had lingered for decades

Complex problems often have complex solutions. The fact the previously listed Presidents oversaw the end of war is fact. How big a part they played in it is debatable.

OTOH, I do know a Republican President who started one of the worst wars in American history: Abraham Lincoln.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Raising the US defense budget by 20 percent did not cause the USSR to collapse. Only Americans could possibly think people could be that weak and feeble.

Soviet citizens were willing to eat rats and sawdust rather than surrender to the enemy hordes at the gates of Leningrad.

yes, that explains how the soviet union separated itself in to many of it's original countries........so that they could be stronger and defend against the imperialist americans, not wanting to finally eat ROFL

how pitiful you fucks are.

 

[IBDaMann]

Not quite, the Soviets were already heading in that direction,

Please acquire some reading comprehension. Instead of "Not quite" you should have written "Exactly right!" because you are about to AGREE with the point made. The Soviets were heading in that direction and Reagan broke their backs, to which the B-2 bomber played it's most important role.

Gorbachev saw the handwriting on the wall.

Gorbachev refused to see the handwriting on the wall.

Did Reagan’s measures bring it about, no, they may have accelerated its demise,

Ergo, yes, Reagan's measures brought about the demise of the Soviet Union far earlier than it would have otherwise have happened, if the Soviet Union was even going to collapse in the first place. Of course you have shown no reason any rational adult should believe your conjecture that the USSR was definitively heading for collapse.

but it was going to happen soon anyway,

Of course ... for no other reason than you have declared such. You have learned much from Cypress.

if anyone won the Cold War it was George Kennan

Nope. Reagan's decisions to push the Soviets' paranoia buttons and compel them to spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend in a persistently panicky financial hemhorraging that succeeded in crushing their ability to continue even basic operations, caused republics to lose confidence and break away in domino effect, and directly caused the dissolution of the socialist republic.

Containment wasn't working anyway.

 

[Into the Night]

Raising the US defense budget by 20 percent did not cause the USSR to collapse. Only Americans could possibly think people could be that weak and feeble.

Soviet citizens were willing to eat rats and sawdust rather than surrender to the enemy hordes at the gates of Leningrad.

The USSR was that weak and feeble.
The Soviet citizens made a valiant effort to get rid of the government that was making them eat the rats.

 

[Into the Night]

Complex problems often have complex solutions. The fact the previously listed Presidents oversaw the end of war is fact. How big a part they played in it is debatable.

OTOH, I do know a Republican President who started one of the worst wars in American history: Abraham Lincoln.

The Cold War didn't end, dumbass.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The Cold War didn't end, dumbass.

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[gfm7175]

Bulverism. Bigotry.

I see that Doc Dutch is off of his rocker even more than usual...

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I see that Doc Dutch is off of his rocker even more than usual...

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[Lionfish]

 

[QP!]

The right continually shows that wherever they can seize power they will instantly move towards creating the Christian version of the Taliban, here in America.

They will push, in every instance, to use the power of gov't to make others live to their religious views. Everything is hidden under the veil of 'protecting children', 'protecting women', when it is, in fact, just about maintaining the dominance of the white Christian males, that they see being lost in the coming years.

It is why the SC blurring the lines of 'church and State' which the Founders clearly recognized the threat of comingling, is so very dangerous.


I don't have any doubt if US religion gains the same amount of power within US gov't that we end up, just as in Afghanistan, at an end point of people being murdered by the gov't for disobeying religious edicts, they can dress up as laws. the two would be indistinguishable in that regard.

 

[Lionfish]

I see that Doc Dutch is off of his rocker even more than usual...

Mr. Tiny Penis is always on the struggle bus.

 

[tigerred59]

Reagan's full quote was, "If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under."

That's an important thing to remember right now when we see things like the FBI targeting parents who are concerned abut what their children are learning. We see the federal government telling us that we need to let our small children mutilate themselves in the name of gender-affirming healthcare. And it's okay to allow abortion even though it's murder.

So, in a world that is constantly in attack-mode, we must pray. Clinging to our Christianity may be the only way to save our country. Eliminating every Democrat politician from high office may also be the solution to save our country.

Ah, the good old days, when the GOP not only worshipped Reagan, but revered him. Now these brain dead racist hillbilly fucks would rather worship the devil, ie Trump himself, than show any love for facts and common sense...that's how fucked up white ppl and Tom's are today.

 

[Nordberg]

He was correct

Nope. Schools are better at controlling books and reading. You guys want the biggest-mouthed househag to determine all the reading and schooling for all of your kids. Some schools are cutting Shakespeare. You guys have submitted to Trump for your politics and the nastiest Karen in town to tell what your kids will read and learn.

 

[ptif219]

Nope. Schools are better at controlling books and reading. You guys want the biggest-mouthed househag to determine all the reading and schooling for all of your kids. Some schools are cutting Shakespeare. You guys have submitted to Trump for your politics and the nastiest Karen in town to tell what your kids will read and learn.

Then why did they have books with pornorophy in the school libraries. Transgender is a political agenda not a school subject

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Then why did they have books with pornorophy in the school libraries. Transgender is a political agenda not a school subject

Sooo....what is that in public libraries? Be specific...if you are honest.

Lie, run or bullshit if you are the spawn of Satan's asshole.