"Roe Versus Wade"

[cancel2 2022]

I was afraid that was going to happen. Women have died, throughout history, from massive sepsis from miscarriages where fetal remains aren't completely expelled. We're going to see the same thing happen with chemical abortions too. Wait for it.

You do have to laugh, are you saying that Scandinavian countries are medically less advanced?

The figures showed that the proportion of medical abortions has risen sharply. In most countries, medical abortion made up at least half of all such procedures, with the highest proportions found in Scandinavia: Finland (97%); Sweden (93%); and Norway (88%).

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroo...efore-12-weeks-in-many-high-income-countries/

 

[Althea]

Hello Althea,



Women moving out of hard line red states. Doctors choosing to work elsewhere. Hmmm.

Hope that's what they wanted.

These under educated governors/legislators don't really think past the present moment.

 

[Althea]

I'm sure Pro life physicians will be happy to work in pro life states.

If you can find them. Physicians tend to be educated. The only ones who would work in these states are the religious zealots who aren't very good physicians

 

[Yakuda]

Many won’t move to these states


Some will leave the state


They screwed themselves

Yeah killing babies is so important to some people they have to move to states where they can do it legally. People could wait to have babies until they are ready to support them but fuck that, savages have to fuck right?

 

[Walt]

I was afraid that was going to happen. Women have died, throughout history, from massive sepsis from miscarriages where fetal remains aren't completely expelled. We're going to see the same thing happen with chemical abortions too. Wait for it.

In many red states, medical decisions have been taken from the doctors and patients, and given to religious fanatics with no understanding of science.

 

[domer76]

Yeah killing babies is so important to some people they have to move to states where they can do it legally. People could wait to have babies until they are ready to support them but fuck that, savages have to fuck right?

When exactly does that baby you refer to become a baby?

 

[Althea]

In many red states, medical decisions have been taken from the doctors and patients, and given to religious fanatics with no understanding of science.

Before that, they gave permission to any Dr./Nurse to deny care to any patient, citing religious convictions.

 

[Yakuda]

When exactly does that baby you refer to become a baby?

Good question. To my way of thinking, when it's conceived but I know that's problematic for people. When would you say it's a baby?

 

[Yakuda]

In many red states, medical decisions have been taken from the doctors and patients, and given to religious fanatics with no understanding of science.

Give an actual example.

 

[Walt]

Give an actual example.

Ectopic pregnancy.

 

[Yakuda]

Ectopic pregnancy.

That's a religious issue?

 

[Walt]

That's a religious issue?

Ectopic pregnancy should not be a religious issue.

 

[Yakuda]

Ectopic pregnancy should not be a religious issue.

It's not. Show me where it is.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

In many red states, medical decisions have been taken from the doctors and patients, and given to religious fanatics with no understanding of science.

Death panels like $arah Palin screeched about? I'm curious about your comment -- which religious fanatics are making medical decisions? Are you referring to the forced-birthers?

 

[Walt]

Death panels like $arah Palin screeched about? I'm curious about your comment -- which religious fanatics are making medical decisions? Are you referring to the forced-birthers?

I am referring to the cases where laws are banning ectopic abortions, and the like. It is beyond forced birthers, because ectopic pregnancies do not end in a live birth. It is forced attempts to find a miracle.

 

[domer76]

Good question. To my way of thinking, when it's conceived but I know that's problematic for people. When would you say it's a baby?

Certainly not at conception. I ask that question in the context of pro-lifers using the language “killing unborn babies or children”. As if they were toddlers of some sort.

My belief is that life begins at conception. When do they become babies or children? I don’t know the answer to that.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Walt,

In many red states, medical decisions have been taken from the doctors and patients, and given to religious fanatics with no understanding of science.

Legislating from the pulpit. No wonder our country is going to you know where. We are not supposed to make laws recognizing religion.

Whatever happened to the 1st amendment?

 

[Yakuda]

Certainly not at conception. I ask that question in the context of pro-lifers using the language “killing unborn babies or children”. As if they were toddlers of some sort.

My belief is that life begins at conception. When do they become babies or children? I don’t know the answer to that.

The answer is in the name, pro-lifer not pro baby. Killing terminates a life, the person/baby/fetus discussion seems meaningless. We put people in prison for abusing dogs.

Ive not heard a good argument for the distinction.

 

[Yakuda]

Hello Walt,



Legislating from the pulpit. No wonder our country is going to you know where. We are not supposed to make laws recognizing religion.

Whatever happened to the 1st amendment?

Which law recognizes which religion?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello domer76,

Certainly not at conception. I ask that question in the context of pro-lifers using the language “killing unborn babies or children”. As if they were toddlers of some sort.

My belief is that life begins at conception. When do they become babies or children? I don’t know the answer to that.

My understanding is that life is ongoing. There is no point where it 'begins' because it is handed down from one generation to the next.

A fetus becomes a baby upon live birth.