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Getin the ring said:
CAn I make a suggestion, stop the rah rah about the ACA, psssst, listen up, it's a RUSE. It is failing, it will totally fail if Trump can't save it.
You can not win this one, please for your own good, read up.
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The only reason my dearest that it could fail would be if trump continues to do whatever he can to ruin it. Short of that it continues, and a bi partisan fix can be worked out.
Its great to see record numbers of people signing up.
 
floridafan said:
If you don't pay any taxes, it aint mandatory. There is no fine or penalty you have to pay. That counts for the poor or any other tax payer who doesn't receive a refund. Dah!!
Now, whom among us is the moron, Festus?
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A) I pay taxes.

B) You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, the individual mandate penalty has nothing to do with your tax bracket, even people making $9500 a year or more fall under the individual mandate and must purchase healthcare or pay the individual mandate penalty:


The $695 per-person penalty is only for those who make between $9,500 and ~$37,000 per year. If you make less than ~$9.500, you're exempt. If you make more than ~$37,000, your penalty is calculated by the following formula...

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-is-the-obamacare-penalty-tax-2012-7

If you don’t have health insurance: How much you'll pay

If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you may pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")

You owe the fee for any month you, your spouse, or your tax dependents don't have qualifying health coverage (sometimes called "minimum essential coverage"). See all insurance types that qualify.

You pay the fee when you file your federal tax return for the year you don’t have coverage.

In some cases, you may qualify for a health coverage exemption from the requirement to have insurance. If you qualify, you won't have to pay the fee. Learn about health coverage exemptions.

The 2017 fee for not having health insurance
For the 2017 plan year, the fee is calculated 2 different ways – as a percentage of your household income, and per person. You’ll pay whichever is higher.
The penalty rises yearly with inflation.
Percentage of income

2.5% of household income
Maximum: Total yearly premium for the national average price of a Bronze plan sold through the Marketplace
Per person

$695 per adult
$347.50 per child under 18
Maximum: $2,085
Paying the fee
Using the percentage method, only the part of your household income that's above the yearly tax filing requirement is counted.
Using the per-person method, you pay only for people in your household who don't have insurance coverage.

If you have coverage for part of the year, the fee is 1/12 of the annual amount for each month you (or your tax dependents) don't have coverage. If you're uncovered only 1 or 2 months, you don't have to pay the fee at all. Learn about the "short gap" exemption.
You pay the fee when you file your federal tax return for the year you don't have coverage.

https://www.healthcare.gov/fees/fee-for-not-being-covered/
 
PraiseKek said:
A) I pay taxes.

B) You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, the individual mandate penalty has nothing to do with your tax bracket, even people making $9500 a year or more fall under the individual mandate and must purchase healthcare or pay the individual mandate penalty:




The $695 per-person penalty is only for those who make between $9,500 and ~$37,000 per year. If you make less than ~$9.500, you're exempt. If you make more than ~$37,000, your penalty is calculated by the following formula...

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-is-the-obamacare-penalty-tax-2012-7

If you don’t have health insurance: How much you'll pay

If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you may pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")

You owe the fee for any month you, your spouse, or your tax dependents don't have qualifying health coverage (sometimes called "minimum essential coverage"). See all insurance types that qualify.

You pay the fee when you file your federal tax return for the year you don’t have coverage.

In some cases, you may qualify for a health coverage exemption from the requirement to have insurance. If you qualify, you won't have to pay the fee. Learn about health coverage exemptions.

The 2017 fee for not having health insurance
For the 2017 plan year, the fee is calculated 2 different ways – as a percentage of your household income, and per person. You’ll pay whichever is higher.
The penalty rises yearly with inflation.
Percentage of income

2.5% of household income
Maximum: Total yearly premium for the national average price of a Bronze plan sold through the Marketplace
Per person

$695 per adult
$347.50 per child under 18
Maximum: $2,085
Paying the fee
Using the percentage method, only the part of your household income that's above the yearly tax filing requirement is counted.
Using the per-person method, you pay only for people in your household who don't have insurance coverage.

If you have coverage for part of the year, the fee is 1/12 of the annual amount for each month you (or your tax dependents) don't have coverage. If you're uncovered only 1 or 2 months, you don't have to pay the fee at all. Learn about the "short gap" exemption.
You pay the fee when you file your federal tax return for the year you don't have coverage.

https://www.healthcare.gov/fees/fee-for-not-being-covered/
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lets make this real simple for you. If you don't have insurance you are subject to a penalty. The only way the IRS collects this penalty is by deducting it from any tax refund due you. If you are not due a tax refund, there is no way the IRS can collect a penalty for that given year.
 
floridafan said:
The only reason my dearest that it could fail would be if trump continues to do whatever he can to ruin it. Short of that it continues, and a bi partisan fix can be worked out.
Its great to see record numbers of people signing up.
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A) It's been failing, insurance companies were and are pulling out of markets across the country in mass and deductibles are unaffordable.

B) Sorry but this is a Constitutional republic and the Legislature not the POTUS have the power of the purse and Congress never appropriated the funds for the subsidies, Obamas Executive Order was a fragrant violation of the Constitution.
 
PraiseKek said:
A) It's been failing, insurance companies were and are pulling out of markets across the country in mass and deductibles are unaffordable.

B) Sorry but this is a Constitutional republic and the Legislature not the POTUS have the power of the purse and Congress never appropriated the funds for the subsidies, Obamas Executive Order was a fragrant violation of the Constitution.
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If it is failing, its because of Trumps never ending attempt to destroy it. Its far easier to fix it than destroy it. Despite this, a record number of people have signed up for coverage this year.
 
floridafan said:
lets make this real simple for you. If you don't have insurance you are subject to a penalty. The only way the IRS collects this penalty is by deducting it from any tax refund due you. If you are not due a tax refund, there is no way the IRS can collect a penalty for that given year.
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lol first of all 70% of tax filers receive a refund and even if you don't get a tax refund the IRS will issue a penalty for anyone making $9500 a year or more and that penalty will continue to accrue until it is payed off, now I understand how a dipshit leftist wouldn't care about moving up the socio-economic ladder but most people are not content to make so little money that they don't even get a refund, people making even as little as $17000 yearly gross get an income tax refund.
 
floridafan said:
If it is failing, its because of Trumps never ending attempt to destroy it. Its far easier to fix it than destroy it. Despite this, a record number of people have signed up for coverage this year.
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It was failing before Trump even announced, and all Trump did was rescind an Unconstitutional executice order which circumvented Congressional power of the purse, if you don't like the Constitution move to China.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
actually it was pretty easy to destroy.....all he did was do what the courts ordered Obama to do......
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Did the courts tell him to reduce the sign up dates, or to reduce advertising, or to bad mouth it at every opportunity?

By the way, can you tell God bless America to stop answering my posts, she is on ignore.
 
floridafan said:
Did the courts tell him to reduce the sign up dates, or to reduce advertising, or to bad mouth it at every opportunity?

By the way, can you tell God bless America to stop answering my posts, she is on ignore.
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nah, those were freebies.....he just told Congress to do what they had to do......he also told Congress to deliver your message to GBA.......they said, as I do, "fuck off".....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
nah, those were freebies.....he just told Congress to do what they had to do......he also told Congress to deliver your message to GBA.......they said, as I do, "fuck off".....
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The single biggest issue of the voters was health care. And the best you could do is to take it away from millions of Americans. FAIL
 
floridafan said:
Did the courts tell him to reduce the sign up dates, or to reduce advertising, or to bad mouth it at every opportunity?

By the way, can you tell God bless America to stop answering my posts, she is on ignore.
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All he had to do was rescind the unconstitutional executive order subsidies that were not appropriated by congress, the ACA is dead, choke on it.
 
floridafan said:
The single biggest issue of the voters was health care. And the best you could do is to take it away from millions of Americans. FAIL
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No liar, the ACA took away healthcare from tens of millions of Americans including myself and forced me to purchase the gold ribbon coverage that I didn't need, didn't want, and can't afford to use.
 
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