Republicans need to stop talking the economy down

Every time I have asked for even a basic fact to counter the OP, all I've seen is some variation of "the voters know it was Dems!"

The right has really become a place that is devoid of factual arguments, or anything rooted in reality.
 
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Source: Author’s analysis of data from Table 1.15 from the National Income and Product Accounts (NIPA) of the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA).



53.9% of prices increases are from corporate profit




Corporations have been using the inflation increases to hide their raping yet again idiot


Doubling it


Are you catching on yet?
 
Every time I have asked for even a basic fact to counter the OP, all I've seen is some variation of "the voters know it was Dems!"

The right has really become a place that is devoid of factual arguments, or anything rooted in reality.

They have done it for decades


It’s just easier for people to procure the facts now
 
That would certainly be new. Dem Presidents have always been better for the economy - at least since Reagan's 1st term.
Clinton was only successful because he got waxed in the midterm and started cooperating with a Republican Congress. Same for Obama . George Bush Sr. did good. Stock market was up 60% in 4 years and gas prices were down.

BTW If you believe what you said was true there is a very insteresting graph at this link.
https://www.ocregister.com/2022/05/28/what-president-did-the-best-job-with-inflation/
 
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Clinton was only successful because he got waxed in the midterm and started cooperating with a Republican Congress. Same for Obama . George Bush Sr. did good. Stock market was up 60% in 4 years and gas prices were down.

BTW If you believe what you said was true there is a very insteresting graph at this link.
https://www.ocregister.com/2022/05/28/what-president-did-the-best-job-with-inflation/

Can you guys ever hear yourselves?

It's always a "they were only successful because of Republicans" when a Dem is in power. And when a Republican is in power, it's "they only failed because of the Dems."

Republicans RIDICULED Clinton for his economic package during his 1st 2 years. It barely passed. And it paved the way for the prosperity we all enjoyed.

They did the same for Obama's stimulus. Remember how many Republicans said it would lead us to a new Depression? And we had the longest recovery we've had in decades.

Enough of all of that. We do better under Dems, and worse under Republicans. The history is VERY clear on that. Period.
 
What is the Republican plan to lower inflation? Do you have the details?

We didn't have inflation before Biden and the fucking idiots took over, why not just eliminate democrats and watch ridiculous taxes go down, inflation goes away under our policies, no free college, no favoring of one part of the working class over another. People with 401ks were seeing tremendous growth under Trump, still negative 19%+ under Biden. When we eliminate democratic leadership we right the ship.
 
Can you guys ever hear yourselves?

It's always a "they were only successful because of Republicans" when a Dem is in power. And when a Republican is in power, it's "they only failed because of the Dems."

Republicans RIDICULED Clinton for his economic package during his 1st 2 years. It barely passed. And it paved the way for the prosperity we all enjoyed.

They did the same for Obama's stimulus. Remember how many Republicans said it would lead us to a new Depression? And we had the longest recovery we've had in decades.

Enough of all of that. We do better under Dems, and worse under Republicans. The history is VERY clear on that. Period.
Who wrote the bills that Clinton signed for the next 6 years. Remember Clinton's "the era of big government is over" speech?
 
Who wrote the bills that Clinton signed for the next 6 years. Remember Clinton's "the era of big government is over" speech?

It was the economic package that kicked everything into high gear. It sounds like you want to credit Republicans without any specifics whatsoever.

Like I said - the history is clear.
 
I can't pretend to be an expert on this. But it's what they call fiat currency. It's not tied to gold standard.

The future of the US dollar looks murky at best, based on a lot of what I'm reading and listening to.

Nouriel Robini is known as Dr. Doom. Listen to this podcast and you'll likely leave in tears (if you think Republicans are talking down the economy - listen to this guy). In May 2020 he called the inflation we are seeing now though. He saw it. This guy knows his stuff. Here's a portion of the podcast where he's asked about the dollar and its reserve currency status:


Tracy: (31:19)
Yeah, I remember talking to you about it earlier in the year, this idea of a sort of tokenized dollar that's more tied to hard assets. You know, this is also something we've discussed many times on the podcast at this point. The idea of the dollar losing its reserve currency status. And one of the things about that is people have been talking about it for a long time and it hasn't yet happened. What in your opinion makes this time different?

Nouriel: (31:47)
Several things. Of course it's not going to happen overnight. The decline of reserve currency status takes many years. But there are at least two factors. One is that the US has very large current account of fiscal deficits. There are fiscal deficits in other advanced economies, but they tend to run current accounts surpluses or a balance while we have a twin deficits. And historically every time they had twin deficits and the dollar was too strong, you have a cycle of dollar going up and then has to go down in order to restore the external competitiveness. And the fall of the dollar can be 30 to 40% on a weighted basis. So that's going to be something that is going to happen, especially as the Fed is going to wimp out while other central banks will have to start to tighten.

Secondly, I think that the big revolution right now is that a regime change, is that we have weaponized the US dollar for national security and foreign policy purposes and that might be the right thing to do. We have to punish our enemies. Whether it’s Russia, North Korea, Iran, or even China with trade and financial sanctions, because there is a geopolitical rivalry, it's going to get worse. But they know right now, even the Chinese, that their dollars can be seized like they were seized in North Korea, in Iran, and now in Russia. And not just the dollar, also the yen, the euro, the pound, the Swiss dranc. So if you need another reserve currency, that is a reserve currency or asset. It’s not dollar euro, yen, pound and Swiss franc. Which one is the only one out there that is going to be an alternative that cannot be seized by the US or Europe or Japan?

Joe: (33:25)
Bitcoin.

Nouriel: (33:27)
It’s gold.

Joe: (33:28)
Oh.

Nouriel: (33:28)
It's gold, but gold not in the vault in New York, New York Fed or London, but gold in your own vault or caves in Russia or China, wherever you have it. So I think that that's going to be what's going to lead to a sharp fall of the value of the dollar, the strategic [inaudible] of the US have a plan to completely phase out their exposure to dollar assets. And that's going to be a regime change for the long run as opposed to doing a short-term factor. It's going to happen.

Joe: (33:54)
I really thought we might hear Nouriel make the case for Bitcoin there, but I have basically just one last question…

Nouriel: (34:01)
Bitcoin is another sh*tcoin. There's no fundamental value.

Joe: (34:04)
We'll break that out to a separate story.

Nouriel: (34:07)
It’s going to be gold, there's going to be TIPs. It's not going to be Bitcoin, frankly.



Nouriel Roubini Predicts a Crisis 'Worse' Than the 1970s

Dr. Doom lives up to his moniker.


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...e-than-the-1970s/id1056200096?i=1000583274967
 
People with 401ks were seeing tremendous growth under Trump, still negative 19%+ under Biden.

Just a minute of reality here. trump had tepid growth in the S&P(a reasonable proxy for 401k's), and Biden has had worse growth(so far). That is not the reality I want, but it is reality, unlike what you are trying to sell.

If your 401k has dropped by 19% since Biden came to office, then you are making some very bad investments. If you are claiming you had "tremendous growth" under trump, then you are a liar.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2482/sp500-performance-by-president
 
This is pathetic, the far left loons are at the point where they have to beg Americans to stop talking about how bad the economy and inflation are.,

Pathetic.
 
I get that it's a campaign season - but they're hurting economic prospects, and also hurting working Americans.

We've added over 9 million jobs since Biden took office. The unemployment rate is LOW. Just today, growth and earnings news exceeded expectations, and the market has been going up.

It is FAR from perfect - obviously, inflation. But wages are also low, and other indicators aren't where they need to be.

But this is not the disaster Republicans portray it as. And it's time for them to stop talking that way - because the rhetoric has real-world impact.

Yeah right people's pocketbooks will do a the talking that's needed.
 
It’s not rainbows, but it isn’t the gloom and doom, either. I still haven’t heard how Trumpublicans are going to fix inflation, would you share their ideas?

how many times do we have to tell you before you recognize the fact we've told you......the inflation began with higher fuel costs triggered by Biden's plan to bankrupt the oil industry........we fight it by eliminating all the things Biden did to carry out that plan.........
 
Go fuck myself w/ what? WHERE DID I CLAIM THAT INFLATION ISN'T A PROBLEM.

You're arguing something completely different. You should read the OP again. And again.

so you say inflation is a problem but we aren't allowed to say inflation is a problem because it might lead to a change which would solve it.........why not just say that the Demmycrats should all resign to stop bringing the economy down?......
 
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Trump was the worst jobs President in modern history.

Should we vote for him & people who support him some more?

and yet, he had the best job growth in forty years until people were forced to stay home for covid.......you knew you had to come up with something or he would have done a Reagan on this secod term......what better ploy than shut down the economy.......now you brag about Biden who hasn't actually ADDED a single job.....
 
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