Republicans are in full damage control mode

[gfm7175]

Where does Congress get the constitutional power to ban abortion at any time?

Finally somebody else brings up the Constitution...

 

[gfm7175]

97% of all abortions are performed before 15 weeks, so the law would have little effect and actually expand abortion rights from what many states are now imposing.

True... Definitely true for my state of Wisconsin, which has a pretty strict ban on it. Demonkkkrats refuse to enforce our state law, of course...

 

[ZenMode]

This is not a part of your OP that I responded to.


The only thing mentioned in your OP was the 15 week proposal.


There's no way to be confused about this. Your OP was about a single thing (the 15 week abortion proposal). Why would I be talking about anything other than that?

Right so, at this point, given that you've repeatedly called me dishonest and a liar, there's basically no chance you're going to do anything but push forward with your claim, even if you did understand my confusion. Confusion probably isn't even an accurate word - I was just clarifying....which somehow makes me dishonest. Okey dokey..... Believe as you wish!

 

[Flash]

Finally somebody else brings up the Constitution...

I guess it is the same power to make other criminal laws regarding drugs, kidnapping, etc. Maybe the interstate commerce power?

Here it is from the bill:

Congress has authority to extend protection to pain-capable unborn children under
(A) the Commerce Clause of section 8 of article I of the Constitution of the United States, as interpreted by the Supreme Court;
and
(B) the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of section 1, and the Enforcement Clause of section 5, of the 14th Amendment to
the Constitution

https://www.lgraham.senate.gov/publ...rn-children-from-late-term-abortions-act-.pdf

 

[LV426]

97% of all abortions are performed before 15 weeks, so the law would have little effect and actually expand abortion rights from what many states are now imposing.

The bill provides no complete exceptions, not even in the event of the health of the mother:

in reasonable medical judgment, the abortion is necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself, but not including psychological or emotional conditions;

And then the rape exception forces the woman to jump through humiliating hoops by being forced to report it to law enforcement agencies with a history of not solving rape cases and not prosecuting rapes. The bill does not require the police to investigate and prosecute the rape, just to force the woman to go through the trauma of having to report it in order to get an abortion.

the pregnancy is the result of rape against an adult woman, and at least 48 hours prior to the abortion—‘‘(I) she has obtained counseling for the rape; or ‘‘(II) she has obtained medical treatment for the rape or an injury related to the rape; or (iii) the pregnancy is a result of rape against a minor or incest against a minor, and the rape or incest has been reported at any time prior to the abortion to either—3 ‘‘(I) a government agency legally authorized to act on reports of child abuse; or‘(II) a law enforcement agency

So that's not an exception.

 

[LV426]

It's also RINOs wanting to purposely sabotage the upcoming MAGA-wave by bringing up what Demonkkkrats wish to talk about (social issues) while completely ignoring the economic pain on Main Street (economy issues) that can unite all sorts of people (under the MAGA banner) who are otherwise divided on social issues.

This unification (under the banner of Main Street economics) is what the MAGA movement is all about. RINOs want this movement to fail just as much as Demonkkkrats do, as they are both one of the same... some call this the Uniparty.

Why on earth would Conservatives want to talk about the economy since the last time they were in charge, they lost 30M jobs and gave us a recession thanks to tax cuts?

Recession officially started in February, researchers say
June 8, 2020
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-recession-started-in-february-researchers-say

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
January 17, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...mild-recession-during-2019-sore-spot-economy/

You tanked the economy before COVID.

 

[gfm7175]

Why on earth would Conservatives want to talk about the economy since the last time they were in charge, they lost 30M jobs and gave us a recession thanks to tax cuts?

Recession officially started in February, researchers say
June 8, 2020
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-recession-started-in-february-researchers-say

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
January 17, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...mild-recession-during-2019-sore-spot-economy/

You tanked the economy before COVID.

Why on Earth would anyone seriously believe any of that tripe that you just provided?

 

[LV426]

Why on Earth would anyone seriously believe any of that tripe that you just provided?

Because it's from Fox News, your trusted news source.

Conservative economics always fail, just like they failed for Reagan, Bush the Elder, Bush the Dumber, and Trump.

Joe Biden has created more jobs in 2 years than Bush the Elder, Bush the Dumber, and Trump created in 16.

 

[gfm7175]

Because it's from Fox News, your trusted news source.

Why on Earth would you ever think THAT? I despise Fox News, actually. I've mentioned my despise for them a number of times on here before.

Conservative economics always fail, just like they failed for Reagan, Bush the Elder, Bush the Dumber, and Trump.

Reagan and Trump were good on economics (both were pro Main Street)... Bush Sr and Jr were morons.

Joe Biden has created more jobs in 2 years than Bush the Elder, Bush the Dumber, and Trump created in 16.

Biden hasn't created a single job in his life, moron... Trump alone has created many jobs throughout his life as a businessman.

 

[LV426]

Why on Earth would you ever think THAT? I despise Fox News, actually. I've mentioned my despise for them a number of times on here before.

Sure, Jan.

Reagan and Trump were good on economics (both were pro Main Street)

Reagan ended his Presidency with Black Monday and the largest taxpayer bailout of all time before Bush the Dumber's in 2008.

Trump economy was in a recession before COVID, and never exceeded Obama's best annual GDP growth.

Biden hasn't created a single job in his life,

He's created millions over two years after you and Trump lost 30M jobs because you said COVID was a hoax.

 

[gfm7175]

Sure, Jan.

Misgendering.

Reagan ended his Presidency with Black Monday and the largest taxpayer bailout of all time before Bush the Dumber's in 2008.

Trump economy was in a recession before COVID,

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!

and never exceeded Obama's best annual GDP growth.

You seriously think that GDP is the economy?!?!!?

He's created millions over two years after you and Trump lost 30M jobs because you said COVID was a hoax.

You seriously believe that Biden has created millions of jobs?!?!?!?!!?

You seriously believe that Trump (and myself?) have lost 30M jobs (and that this has something to do with calling COVID hysteria a hoax)!?!?!?!?


You are TOO FUNNY!!!!

 

[LV426]

Misgendering.

The problem with you is that reality is just too damaging to your ego, so you hide out on places like JPP rather than express these views publicly because you know you're wrong and unpopular.

Which is why you ran your mouth for months about a stolen election, but then hid out here on JPP the one day you could have done something about it.

 

[LV426]

You seriously think that GDP is the economy?!?!!?

GDP is how the size of the economy is measured, and you all promised GDP growth of at least 3% if your shitty tax cut was passed.

Trump's best annual GDP growth was 2.85%, which was 0.03% below Obama's best annual GDP growth.

 

[LV426]

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!

I don't find recessions all that funny.

Recession officially started in February, researchers say
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-recession-started-in-february-researchers-say

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...mild-recession-during-2019-sore-spot-economy/

Oof.

 

[LV426]

You seriously believe that Biden has created millions of jobs?!?!?!?!!?

It's not something one believes, but rather something one accepts.

You seriously believe that Trump (and myself?) have lost 30M jobs

You did lose 30M jobs because you called COVID a hoax and didn't take it seriously.

It's also why you lost the election.

 

[LV426]

(and that this has something to do with calling COVID hysteria a hoax)

You didn't call the hysteria a hoax, YOU CALLED COVID A HOAX.

And that "hysteria" was right on the money because hundreds of thousands of people died from COVID.

Running that big mouth of yours non-stop for a year caused you and Trump to lose the election.

 

[Into the Night]

I don't recall either party ever misjudging societal views as badly as Republicans did on abortion.

Democrats come to mind.

Sen. Lindsey Graham introduces bill to ban most abortions nationwide after 15 weeks

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban most abortions nationwide starting at 15 weeks of pregnancy.

Unconstitutional.

The South Carolina senator introduced the bill less than three months after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the constitutional right to abortion.

There is no right that comes from any piece of paper. The Constitution does not mention abortion. The federal government has NO AUTHORITY THERE. It cannot overrule States, either to ban abortion or to allow it.

The measure would sharply narrow abortion access in numerous states — especially blue states, which tend to have more abortion rights protections.

Murder is not a right.

The legislation has little chance of passing Congress as it currently stands, as Democrats hold slim majorities in both the House and Senate.

Meh.

It arrives ahead of the pivotal November midterm elections, where expectations of a Republican rout have been thrown into doubt as evidence mounts that the reversal of Roe has galvanized Democratic voters. Pro-abortion rights advocates have warned that a GOP takeover of Congress would lead to an erosion of women’s rights, and many were quick to hold up Graham’s bill as a prime example.

Women do not have a right to murder.

 

[Into the Night]

why do lib'ruls want to kill children?......

For the sake of convenience.

 

[Into the Night]

Your party seems to be ok with killing children, so long as its within 15 weeks of pregnancy.

You are speaking of RINOs, which are really Democrats.

 

[martin]

Democrats come to mind.


Murder is not a right.

Women do not have a right to murder.

Who would have guessed?