Quit eating meat!

the only primates who eat meat or humans and chimpanzee's and hunting for a chimp is a form of social display, in which male chimpanzees revealed their prowess to other members of the community,they don't do it for nutriton and they rarely eat it.the amount of meat chimpanzees consume is trivial compared to humans
 
a11n said:
really humans aren't even meant to eat meat,primapes,who we share a common ancestor with,never eat meat,so why should we?
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The word you were looking for is "primates".

And you are wrong in your assumption anyway.

Common Chimpanzees have been recorded eating small animals and insects. In fact, they have been recorded banding together to hunt, kill and eat certain species of monkeys.

Western African Chimpanzees have been known to take tree branches, strip the bark off, sharpen then with their teeth and use them as spears and clubs to kill bushbabies sleeping in trees. Then they ate the bushbabies.

The Orangutan eats bird eggs and small invertabrates.

Baboons are well known meat eaters.

The gorilla is totally herbivorous. But that is obviously the exception rather than the rule amoung primates.
 
a11n said:
the only primates who eat meat or humans and chimpanzee's and hunting for a chimp is a form of social display, in which male chimpanzees revealed their prowess to other members of the community,they don't do it for nutriton and they rarely eat it.the amount of meat chimpanzees consume is trivial compared to humans
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Dude, you're just wrong.
 
a11n said:
the only primates who eat meat or humans and chimpanzee's and hunting for a chimp is a form of social display, in which male chimpanzees revealed their prowess to other members of the community,they don't do it for nutriton and they rarely eat it.the amount of meat chimpanzees consume is trivial compared to humans
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In some areas, the use of tools to obtain insects from a nest of mound is practised quite often.

In fact, insects are often a main source of protein for chimpanzees.

Some groups eat less meat and some eat more.

Your blanket generalities are seeming more and more desperate. Especially in light of the glaring mistakes.
 
Well being the fact that we have found alternate feed sources,we don't really need meat in our life anymore.I think a vegetarian diet could both alleviate everyones personal health problems and spiritually regenerate the human race.

Possilby eliminatiing cancer and many other various diseases,being that our bodies are not made for meat consumption.
 
There are fish that are omnivores, others that are carnivores, a few that are herbivores. Same as other animals.
 
a11n said:
Well being the fact that we have found alternate feed sources,we don't really need meat in our life anymore.I think a vegetarian diet could both alleviate everyones personal health problems and spiritually regenerate the human race.

Possilby eliminatiing cancer and many other various diseases,being that our bodies are not made for meat consumption.
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Thats an interesting change from "really humans aren't even meant to eat meat,primapes,who we share a common ancestor with,never eat meat,so why should we?".

At least with your latest slant you are much less likely to be proven to be outright wrong.

If thats what you think, then I will fight for your right to eat as you see fit. But I will also fight for other people's right to eat as they see fit and for my right to hunt and eat my prey.
 
Solitary said:
Thats an interesting change from "really humans aren't even meant to eat meat,primapes,who we share a common ancestor with,never eat meat,so why should we?".

At least with your latest slant you are much less likely to be proven to be outright wrong.

If thats what you think, then I will fight for your right to eat as you see fit. But I will also fight for other people's right to eat as they see fit and for my right to hunt and eat my prey.
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Yeppers. I haven't a problem with Vegans, as long as they don't try to legislate their ideas.
 
Then you can live has a brainless primate among your other lesser ancesters.

I don't care if you act like baboons because its obvious to see that you're too stubborn.

Other than humans,all primates really have no control over themselves,which is probably why a few of them eat meat,a very small number do.
 
a11n said:
Then you can live has a brainless primate among your other lesser ancesters.

I don't care if you act like baboons because its obvious to see that you're too stubborn.

Other than humans,all primates really have no control over themselves,which is probably why a few of them eat meat,a very small number do.
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Meat eating is not rare amoung chimpanzees. The fact that they make tools specifically for killing an animal shows that. The fact that they organize hunts with a group shows that it is not a behavior in which a male is trying to impress a female. And the fact that meat is not the largest part of their diet is not proof of anything. Most people have a diet that is roughly 35% meat and 65% vegetable matter.



So far you have argued against hunting, and been proven wrong.

Made claims about PETA that were slapped down.

Made claims about our design that were wrong.

Made claims about primate diets that were wrong.

And yet you still keep harping on the same topic and holding the same views. Who is it that is stubborn?
 
a11n said:
Have any of you even seen an animal being killed before you eyes?

I have,I've witnessed a kosher killing of a deer once,the most horrid thing i ever saw

would any of you like to see an animal getting butchered?
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LOL, I worked for a time as a butcher, grew up on a farm killing and eating.

Darned city kids...
 
a11n said:
Well being the fact that we have found alternate feed sources,we don't really need meat in our life anymore.I think a vegetarian diet could both alleviate everyones personal health problems and spiritually regenerate the human race.

Possilby eliminatiing cancer and many other various diseases,being that our bodies are not made for meat consumption.
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Everything about the human species, from our nutritive requirements, our digestive system, our metabolism, even the shape of our teeth, shows homo sapiens to be omnivorous descendants of carnivorous ancestors. It is very difficult for the human digestive system to extract certain minerals in adequate quantities from plant sources. But those same minerals are easily absorbed from the ingestion of animal flesh. Our bodies require a narrowly defined ratio of amino acids for building proteins. It is very difficult to attain that ratio through plant sources without going over in caloric intake. It is very easy to find the right amino acid ratios in animal flesh.

There is no more immorality for humans to eat the flesh of animals than it is for lions, tigers, bears, crocodiles, dolphins, etc. to eat the flesh of animals. Whether you believe we were created by a superior being, or we are the result of a few quintillion chemical reactions over several billion years, the fact is humans are omnivorous by the construct of our bodies.

If you do not like meat, do not eat meat. That is your choice to make. But your choice in no more moral than my choice to eat the flesh of animals.

BTW: much of the research from past decades indicating meat consumption to be linked to cancer has been proven false.

And a last note: I personally find cleaning a pumpkin to be as messy (and slightly gross) as cleaning an animal.
 
Good Luck said:
Everything about the human species, from our nutritive requirements, our digestive system, our metabolism, even the shape of our teeth, shows homo sapiens to be omnivorous descendants of carnivorous ancestors. It is very difficult for the human digestive system to extract certain minerals in adequate quantities from plant sources. But those same minerals are easily absorbed from the ingestion of animal flesh. Our bodies require a narrowly defined ratio of amino acids for building proteins. It is very difficult to attain that ratio through plant sources without going over in caloric intake. It is very easy to find the right amino acid ratios in animal flesh.

There is no more immorality for humans to eat the flesh of animals than it is for lions, tigers, bears, crocodiles, dolphins, etc. to eat the flesh of animals. Whether you believe we were created by a superior being, or we are the result of a few quintillion chemical reactions over several billion years, the fact is humans are omnivorous by the construct of our bodies.

If you do not like meat, do not eat meat. That is your choice to make. But your choice in no more moral than my choice to eat the flesh of animals.

BTW: much of the research from past decades indicating meat consumption to be linked to cancer has been proven false.

And a last note: I personally find cleaning a pumpkin to be as messy (and slightly gross) as cleaning an animal.
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You're actually dead wrong about your first assumption, but lets let bygones be bygones.
 
Don't eat meat? Are you crazy? :clink:

I'd starve if I couldn't eat meat. Do you realize what vegetables feel like going down your throat? Let me paint a picture for you. Ever see a slug? Next time you do, pick it up, put it in your mouth and let it slide down your gullet at its own pace. That is how most vegetables feel when they enter your mouth.

If you can stand that then eat vegetables. If you can't then its meat or starve and I'll be damned if I am going to willingly starve myself to death.

Vegetables! puke!!!

Immie
 
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