Prove it.
poll:who was best Pres in your lifetime
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Prove it.
That is YOUR opinion full of second guessing and hindsight. But it was in the minority at the time and requires one to ignore the events leading up to it.
Let's be VERY clear, there would never have been a second Iraq War if a tyrant like Saddam had not invaded a peaceful neighboring member state of the UN.
I am amused that you agree with Trump on this; I disagree with him on this.
The Iraq war had NOTHING to do with 9-11 which is why you make such foolish claims and can't deal with the facts. The Iraq War was due to Saddam's desire to control ME oil and invade the peaceful neighboring nation of Kuwait.
I am amused that you fancy yourself some kind of expert on War when you can't even get the reason we went into Iraq right.
It was a last resort after Iraqi defiance to comply with agreements they signed in order for Saddam to stay in power after his foray into Kuwait.
There you go again; pretending that 9-11 never happened and that Saddam wasn't a defiant tyrant. You lack honesty and the ability to comprehend facts and reality.
Universal health care is what all our allies have, and it seems to work just fine for them.
They don't have 29,000 people dying every year for lack of health care, nor do they have nearly 700,000 people going bankrupt from medical bills every year either. Nor do they have 25 million people with no health care coverage at all. But we do.
This is a perfect example of someone who is economically clueless and moronically thinks that the Government borrowing trillions is a good thing and that he won't be left with the bill.
Yes, Obamacare was always a stepping stone to single payer. Single payer is the natural progression for health care because it doesn't exclude anyone, and doctors can still remain privately employed.
Trump lost the popular vote.
That chart could run to the end of his term and it wouldn't look less anemic. Obama's recovery was the worst in American history. You can't put enough lipstic on that pig to cover it up.
Wrong; but then, you are consistent. Franklin Raines gave us the mortgage mess and when Republicans tried to reign it in, Democrats obstructed. Watch the video until you get it okay?
Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
Superfreak
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Since when does the Executive branch 'legislate'?
cawacko
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I don't mean to be an ass but do you understand who/what the Fed is and what they do? Not everyone does which is why I ask (and based on your question)
I'm so glad you posted this because it speaks to the inherent dishonesty of Conservatives and how Conservatives debate.
What Pelosi actually said was:
"We have to pass it so you can know what's in it outside the fog of controversey"
So by cutting off the second half of that statement, you inevitably prove her entire statement true!
Cutting off the second half of that statement is the fog of controversy Pelosi was referring to. What it means is that you Conservatives deliberately lied about the health care bill, even lying about what Pelosi said about the health care bill, and that the American people will have to find out the truth of the bill once it was passed because you all lied about it.
Cutting off the second half of what Pelosi said creates the fog of controversy she mentioned.
So all you do when you post this stupid attack is help make Pelosi's case even stronger.
You are a liar, and you're not even covert in how you lie.
BTW - Obamacare has a higher approval rating than Trump does right now!
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
So making money in the stock market isn't important to you? Maybe you don't make enough money in your garbage truck driver job to invest but most Americans do invest in the market and I'm sure they are giddy with the $$$$$ trillions of returns and wealth they received during President Obama's eight years.
And who said I hold "all equities"? Was that another fantasy that you dreamed up? I have investments in equities, bonds, real estate and cash. I trimmed my exposure to equities in January. I've really done quite well since President Obama was elected. Like I said, I was able to retire five years early.
America Loves President Obama!!!
You really need to stick to facts and stop making shit up. Otherwise, you'll go on my IGNORE list like Postmortem Pussy, Turd Defector and Text Driver's a moron.
There was no lie from Conservatives, those were all from Obama and the architects of Obamacare. We didn't get to keep our doctors; we aren't more healthy because of Obamacare; costs have skyrocketed; it didn't reduce the deficit and we didn't get to keep our existing plans.
Obama lying about Premium Costs
Well, actually no. If you bothered to read the link graciously provided to you, you'd know that his average monthly job growth was better than Bush's.
Superfreak
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Link please
GSE's weren't responsible for the subprime bubble, nor were they responsible for the economic collapse. Your hastily slapped together subprime loans were:
Since the start of the Trump/Russia tax cut, the DJIA is flat for the year, and was down for Q2.
Fed's got nothing to do with that.
cawacko
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LOL, I see we have a bitter troll this morning.
Of course the stock market is important but that alone isn't determint of how history judges our best Presidents.
QE gave us our current asset bubble. I asked if you are holding equities for the long term or if you have concerns over the bubble bursting which it will. But hey, why would anyone ask a question like that? Put me on ignore troll.
Superfreak
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Which is why the economy continued to boom for the next twelve years. Such a disaster!
cawacko
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The Fed and the raising of rates (and proposed rate hikes) have nothing to do with it? Wow, that's an interesting take.