poll:who was best Pres in your lifetime

[Truth Detector]

Yeah, because his first two years were digging out of the recession you got us into, and then Republican obstruction hindered the rest of his term.

Bush didn't get us the mortgage collapse, that was entirely created by Democratic policies to loosen credit terms to promote a race hustling agenda.

As for obstruction, Obama started office with two years of Democratically controlled Congress. Trying to blame it on Republicans is asinine and lacks any factual basis or honesty.

I find it amusing that the same liberals who decried Republican obstructionism the final six years of Obamunism now support obstructionism and cheer it. Hypocrites and liars define liberalism.

So if you're going to blame Obama for a weak recovery, you must blame the Conservatives who refused to do anything about it.

Obama had a Democratically controlled congress his first two years. The claim that Republicans obstructed him are lies. Obama refused to work with a Republican congress after Americans rejected his Marxist Socialist divisive agenda. That obstructionism was purely a Obama creation. Unlike BillyBob who realized he would have to work with Republicans and the economy boomed.

I see why you are a liberal and Obama supporter; you don't deal in facts.

 

[Truth Detector]

Bush Jr was responsible for the 2008 mortgage crisis and economic disaster.

Just look at the timeline:

2003: Bush Jr signs the American Dream Downpayment Act: https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031216-9.html

2004: The housing bubble starts. Millions of low income people buy homes they can't afford because Bush Jr pressured the banks to give them no-downpayment loans.

You just love wallowing in lies don't you? That act did not cause the mortgage collapse. If you had any intelligence, you would know that the housing bubble was the result of Democrats refusing to acknowledge the scandal caused by Franklin Raines efforts to make HUGE bonuses running Fannie Mae and all the risky loans they were handing out.

When republicans held hearings to deal with it, Democrats acted like punks and even attacked the regulator assigned with oversight of FM.

Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis

 

[Truth Detector]

You sure seem like you hate Obama, if you're accusing him of having hatred.

You can infer all you want, but I don't hate the guy. Obama hated America; his wife even stated that his election was the first time she was proud of her country. They attended a church whose minister was a race hustling America hating asshole.

It is probably why Obama wanted to turn America into a second class third world shit hole.

Michelle Obama: First Time proud of USA

He's the most level-headed non-hateful President we've had since Carter.

There was nothing level headed about his hatred of Republicans and America.

 

[Truth Detector]

Good point.

Carter was also prescient on the need to wean ourselves off foreign oil, energy efficiency, and to develop alternatives. America's reliance of foreign oil has arguably been America's most significant Achilles heel.

The Camp David agreement ranks in the upper tier of presidential foreign policy accomplishments, a major achievement of diplomatic skill, and a hugely successful foreign policy accomplishment. Egypt has never attacked Israel, or vice versa, in the half century since Camp David.

But my favorite thing about Jimmy Carter was he brought a vision of moral clarity to the American presidency that no one before him had ever done. He elevated human rights and human dignity as a core value in our foreign policy. Prior to Carter, presidential foreign policy was largely based on a cynical Cold War calculation that no matter how evil a foreign leader was, as long as they were anti-communist we were going to back them to the hilt. And in that way, he ultimately changed the nature of the American presidency for all time. Ronald Reagan would have totally gotten away with covertly funding a civil war in Nicaragua, and giving tacit support to rightwing death squads in El Salvador, if Carter had not made the nation take stock of how our values and morality were intersecting with our foreign policy.

Loved a one term President who allowed a rogue nation to imprison Americans from our embassy for more than a year.

 

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I see you ignored the second chart. No surprise. Worst when it comes to new job creation.

Ummm...that's because the chart only shows Obama through February 2010.

 

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Bush didn't get us the mortgage collapse, that was entirely created by Democratic policies to loosen credit terms to promote a race hustling agenda.

Yes, Bush most definitely gave us the subprime bubble and subsequent collapse.

It was Bush's regulators who lowered lending standards beginning in 2004. That's how we got NINJA loans.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Believe me, they did, I was in the minority. It got me ready for the treatment I got protesting the Iraq war, another time I was thought to be insane.

That wasn’t my experience. I can remember when he ran against Ford and people thought he was a major joke.

 

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As for obstruction, Obama started office with two years of Democratically controlled Congress. Trying to blame it on Republicans is asinine and lacks any factual basis or honesty.

Obama did, and got the ARRA and ACA passed.

Then Conservatives lied about the ACA during the 2010 elections and gained power, then didn't do anything with the power their gained. Other than the Sequester, which was a disaster.

 

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I find it amusing that the same liberals who decried Republican obstructionism the final six years of Obamunism now support obstructionism and cheer it. Hypocrites and liars define liberalism

Trump is a disaster and his policies have been a disaster.

So far, wages have declined since the Russia Tax Cut, which runs in contradiction to the promises of $4000 pay increases for workers that Trump made.

 

[cawacko]

Well, President Obama must've done something right because the S&P 500 went up 235%. I could give a flying fuck about the GDP growth. I care about my 401k and IRA and other investments and they did quite well during President Obama's eight years in office. In fact, my net worth gained so much during that time, I was able to retire five years early with a > 7-figure retirement fund. And millions of other Americans also increased their wealth significantly during President Obama's eight years in the White House. This GDP growth that the radicalized right wing nut jobs like to quack about doesn't matter to Americans. Results matter. Facts matter. And the fact is America's net worth increased by trillions during President Obama and nothing the far right can say will change that. It's inscribed in the history books forever.

God bless President Obama!!!

"https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2017/01/17/inside-the-obama-stock-markets-235-rise/#460d71d916d1"]https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2017/01/17/inside-the-obama-stock-markets-235-rise/#460d71d916d1
When Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States on January 20, 2009, the U.S. stock market was in free fall. The financial crisis was in full swing following the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the Standard & Poor’s 500 index, a popular measure of the U.S. stock market, closed at 805 points on Inauguration Day.
Eight years later, the S&P 500 index has risen to 2,274 points after one of the great bull runs in stock market history. With Obama as president, the U.S. stock market, as measured by the S&P 500, returned 235%, or 16.4% annualized.

If the stock market is what's important to you then you ought to be thanking helicopter Ben and Yellen.

Edit: And since they did create this market bubble how long you planning on holding all equities?

 

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Obama had a Democratically controlled congress his first two years.

And passed the ACA and ARRA.

Then Conservatives took over and obstructed any further recovery efforts, then you blame Obama for the poor recovery that followed when it was Conservatives who refused to govern.

 

[LV426]

Obama refused to work with a Republican congress after Americans rejected his Marxist Socialist divisive agenda. That obstructionism was purely a Obama creation. Unlike BillyBob who realized he would have to work with Republicans and the economy boomed. I see why you are a liberal and Obama supporter; you don't deal in facts.

Republicans did nothing to make the economy boom.

So what we have here is you blaming Obama for a weak recovery, while simultaneously saying the recovery was strong because of Republicans.

So which is it, was the economy recovered strongly or wasn't it? Because you're trying to have it both ways.

 

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Unlike BillyBob who realized he would have to work with Republicans and the economy boomed.

Clinton didn't work with Republicans. He shut down the government and Republicans capitulated.

 

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You can infer all you want, but I don't hate the guy. Obama hated America; his wife even stated that his election was the first time she was proud of her country. They attended a church whose minister was a race hustling America hating asshole.

To say Obama hated America is to say you are projecting your hatred for an America that would elect a black guy in repudiation of the Bush policies you supported and defended.

 

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It is probably why Obama wanted to turn America into a second class third world shit hole.There was nothing level headed about his hatred of Republicans and America.

Well, you guys had to lean on Russian support to win the election, so it would seem you're the ones who want this country to turn into a "shithole". After all, your tax cut has resulted in lowered wages for workers:

Worker wages drop while companies spend billions to boost stocks
Worker pay in the second quarter dropped nearly one percent below its first-quarter level, according to the PayScale Index, one measure of worker pay. When accounting for inflation, the drop is even steeper. Year-over-year, rising prices have eaten up still-modest pay gains for many workers, with the result that real wages fell 1.4 percent from the prior year, according to PayScale. The drop was broad, with 80 percent of industries and two-thirds of metro areas affected.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/worker-wages-drop-while-companies-spend-billions-to-boost-stocks/​

 

[Truth Detector]

Seems to have had enough experience to get re-elected.

He had enough popularity. It had NOTHING to do with experience. I challenge you to provide me with his resume of experience to run the worlds largest company; the US Government.

And what experience does Trump have other than running companies into the ground and cheating on his wives?

There you go again with the ignorant narratives and talking points. If running a billion dollar empire is running things into the ground, this country could use a LOT of that. As for his marital issues, do you have the same concerns when BillyBob banged White House interns? That was FAR worse than anything Trump has done.

Seems that you were and are projecting your hatred of an America that repudiated your Conservatism by electing a black guy.

It seems you desperately want to bloviate with strawmen.

Obamacare is the most non-Marxist health care reform that there could have ever been. What makes you think he believes in "Marxist Socialism" (which isn't even a thing, by the way, you just mashed two terms together because you lack any intellectual capacity).

Obamacare was a massive intervention into our healthcare system that was built on a massive pile of lies and straight party vote. The only reason it wasn't universal Marxist care is that Obama and Democratic liars knew even they could not sell that to the American public.

They also knew that once it was passed, it would be very hard to rescind even though they didn't even know what this bill contained. Then, with Hillary's election and a Democratic Congress, they could take it to the next Marxist level.

Fortunately, they didn't account for the American people they had left behind in their desire for political power and got Trump and larger Republican majorities instead. Democrats are too arrogant and smarmy to learn.

The video; who makes such moronic claims???

Speaker Nancy Pelosi: We Have To Pass The Health Care Bill So You Can Find Out What's In It

Now you're just word salad-ing because you're stalling.

It is only word salad to uneducated dullards with a low IQ and third grade comprehension levels.

 

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If the stock market is what's important to you then you ought to be thanking helicopter Ben and Yellen. Edit: And since they did create this market bubble how long you planning on holding all equities?

Since the start of the Russia Tax Cut, the DJIA is flat for the year (< 1%), and down for Q2.

 

[LV426]

He had enough popularity. It had NOTHING to do with experience. I challenge you to provide me with his resume of experience to run the worlds largest company; the US Government.

Government is not a business.

Thinking it is is why Trump just exploded the deficit back to $1T.

By the way, I thought you hated trillion-dollar deficits? Isn't that why you stapled teabags to your face 9 years ago?

 

[LV426]

There you go again with the ignorant narratives and talking points. If running a billion dollar empire is running things into the ground, this country could use a LOT of that. As for his marital issues, do you have the same concerns when BillyBob banged White House interns? That was FAR worse than anything Trump has done.

Trump's gone through how many bankruptcies?

And he can't get loans from American banks, which is why he has to go to the sanctioned Deutsch Bank, which was sanctioned for laundering Russian money.

So Trump gets his money from a bank that was sanctioned for laundering money for Russia.

#winning, right?

 

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s for his marital issues, do you have the same concerns when BillyBob banged White House interns? That was FAR worse than anything Trump has done.

Trump has been accused of sexual assault by 19 women.

Lewinsky's affair with Clinton was consensual.

And Liberals aren't the ones who sanctimoniously preach about family values; that's you guys, remember?