Pence won on style.

You think it's different than what the Trumpistas are doing?
yes. I don't know if you actually follow Trump
but he does offer new ideas. Like deporting criminal illegals, and locking them up if they return and commit a felony.
Kates Law. Re-negotiation of trade.
There is the repatriation of foreign profits held by US corps. The tax plan. The wall.The new approach to Putin ( transactional) foreign policy.

The problem is he is an alpha-male and he cannot ignore meaningless attacks.
He could learn a lot from Pence.
 
Yes, let's just elect someone to lead the country who's easily baited and could be played by a chessmaster like a drum.
Or you can continue to slip into Cold War 2.0. What will Clinton do different then Obama? (nothing).
So Putin increases his influences,and we ratchett up the tensions. all at great expense and angst.
 
It's not the only tool in the shed, just the best one. She has the equivalent of a 5-in-one painter's tool. She can scrape him, gouge him, pull his chain, cut him apart and paste the pieces back together.

Instead of blaming Hillary for baiting Trump you should be criticizing him for rising to the bait, every single time. The man has zero self-control. He melts down over insults about his own actions and words. His is not the type of personality America needs in a leader. We need someone who remains calm under pressure and doesn't allow himself to be goaded by words. Because as Obama can tell you, the president is going to be criticized every single day of his term.

Trump is unable to take the high road. His only roads are low and lower.

I've criticized him in this thread and every time he does it.

Face it, if Hillary focused on the issues she'd be losing this campaign. Every time Trump does manage to stay off Twitter or keep from being baited, he catches up with her because Trump is stronger on actual issues instead of the Jerry Springer stuff.

The proof is in the pudding.
 
I've criticized him in this thread and every time he does it.

Face it, if Hillary focused on the issues she'd be losing this campaign. Every time Trump does manage to stay off Twitter or keep from being baited, he catches up with her because Trump is stronger on actual issues instead of the Jerry Springer stuff.

The proof is in the pudding.

?!?! Hillary's not the one tweeting insults at 3AM. Like her or hate her, she has a grasp on the issues that Trump can't even comprehend because his attention span is so limited. Trump's the embodiment of the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
 
?!?! Hillary's not the one tweeting insults at 3AM. Like her or hate her, she has a grasp on the issues that Trump can't even comprehend because his attention span is so limited. Trump's the embodiment of the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
she understands things, but her judgment is awful - even Bernie hit her on that.
what good is understanding if your performance is awful?
 
?!?! Hillary's not the one tweeting insults at 3AM. Like her or hate her, she has a grasp on the issues that Trump can't even comprehend because his attention span is so limited. Trump's the embodiment of the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."

Hillary's a career politician so you expect her to grasp the issues. But grasping issues is just part of: there's judgement, like when to act, when not to act and how to act.

And based on her mile long record as a politician, she sucks in that regard. The only she has done well is milk the system.

Hillary's wealth she's accumulated at the public's expense is a hill of beans compared to Trump's billions.
 
she understands things, but her judgment is awful - even Bernie hit her on that.
what good is understanding if your performance is awful?

She has demonstrated time and again she does not understand anything. It's why she has no record to run on.
 
I mean this notion that anyone could actually win a VP debate is just one of the lamest and dumbest notions going around.

There is only one of two things a Veep candidate can do in a debate. They do not win or lose. They can only demonstrate that;

A. They are qualified to be POTUS if something were to happen to POTUS or,
B. They are not qualified to be POTUS.

In my adult life time every VP candidate except two demonstrated to the American public that they were qualified to be POTUS if something were to happen to POTUS.

The only two who proved they were not qualified to be POTUS were, Admiral James Stockdale and Sarah Palin.

So in other words the only important metric in the VP debate was did either VP candidate cross the threshold to convince the American public that they are qualified to be POTUS if something were to happen to POTUS? The answer is "yes" they both did.

Ergo both candidates won last nights debate in the only criteria which mattered. Winning on style doesn't mean squat in a VP debate. That's just the silliest notion ever.
 
I mean this notion that anyone could actually win a VP debate is just one of the lamest and dumbest notions going around.

There is only one of two things a Veep candidate can do in a debate. They do not win or lose. They can only demonstrate that;

A. They are qualified to be POTUS if something were to happen to POTUS or,
B. They are not qualified to be POTUS.

In my adult life time every VP candidate except two demonstrated to the American public that they were qualified to be POTUS if something were to happen to POTUS.

The only two who proved they were not qualified to be POTUS were, Admiral James Stockdale and Sarah Palin.

So in other words the only important metric in the VP debate was did either VP candidate cross the threshold to convince the American public that they are qualified to be POTUS if something were to happen to POTUS? The answer is "yes" they both did.

Ergo both candidates won last nights debate in the only criteria which mattered. Winning on style doesn't mean squat in a VP debate. That's just the silliest notion ever.

Um... you are half right. And when you're that dominate it does more that decide who goes to state funerals. TI'm was horrible and is getting reamed by ordinarily friendly fact checkers.
 
Um... you are half right. And when you're that dominate it does more that decide who goes to state funerals. TI'm was horrible and is getting reamed by ordinarily friendly fact checkers.
I'm 100% right. No one is going to vote for Trump based on Pence debate performance. If either candidate had performed as poorly as Palin did than they can hurt their candidate but it's not decisive.

Palin, as horribly as she performed, hurt McCain,mad she came off as utterly unqualified to the majority of Americans and that did raise concerns about McCains judgement but it didn't really move the needle. Neither did last night.
 
Palin sunk McCain because she sucked in the debate and in general.

Pence is sinking Trump because he won the debate and is good in general.

:rofl2:
 
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