Pence won on style.

Norah said:
I admittedly didn't know there was a debate last night until I saw so many channels with the debate listed. I turned it on at one point and the first thing I heard was Tim Kaine say that Hillary Clinton will be the "you're hired" candidate and not the "you're fired" candidate, and so from that one moment it was clear that that's all the debate would probably be and so I changed the channel. That's all I saw of the debate. I don't think my mind would have been changed regardless though if I would have watched it all.
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yeah it was pretty meaningless
 
Althea said:
Without Googling....his claim about the Clinton foundation only using 10% of their money for charity was a whopper.

'We are less safe today than we were 8 years ago.' That's nonsense.

His claims about a failed economy fly in the face of record Dow numbers. Now, we can argue the merits of using Wall St figures as a fair representation of the real economy, just as we can argue 'real' unemployment figures. But those are the factors that have historically been used to measure the economy.
His claim about tax cuts increasing revenue have long since been debunked. It doesn't matter how many times that lie gets repeated.

I haven't even seen the entire debate yet. From what I saw, he lied every time he opened his mouth.
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major fail on your part....just looking at "less safe"....are you denying that the situation in the ME is worse?.....are you denying the terrorist attacks on US soil, including attacks on police?......are you denying the murders in our major cities?.....
 
"the moderator was a failure
she lost control of it" #71
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“You cannot have a moral duty to do the impossible.” George Will

a) Yes. She did not impose pristine & absolute dictatorial control. Perhaps they should have given her a 20 kV cattle prod, and a bull whip.
What authority did she have available to her, that she did not use?

- Kaine & Pence are males. Their bodies, their vocal apparatus benefit from higher testosterone levels.
Bottom line"
- it was two against one
- either Kaine or Pence could shout the female moderator down

And yet she tastefully, in feminine style served as referee, if not moderator.

Didn't she at one point tell them they could continue, but reminded them that they were off topic? - This segment is about North Korea - ?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
major fail on your part....just looking at "less safe"....are you denying that the situation in the ME is worse?.....are you denying the terrorist attacks on US soil, including attacks on police?......are you denying the murders in our major cities?.....
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Maybe we're safer in some arcane statistical sense [I mean what are odds of being shot by a thug or beheaded by an Islamic terrorist?] but there's no denying that cities are burning, cops are being assassinated, ISIS sympathetizers walk amongst us, the Middle East is in turmoil and etc.

They lose on virtually every issue, so they bait Trump into saying something stupid---because it's the only tool in the shed. Hillary supporters can be happy to be ahead in the polls but they can't be proud of what it takes to be there.
 
sear said:
“You cannot have a moral duty to do the impossible.” George Will

a) Yes. She did not impose pristine & absolute dictatorial control. Perhaps they should have given her a 20 kV cattle prod, and a bull whip.
What authority did she have available to her, that she did not use?

- Kaine & Pence are males. Their bodies, their vocal apparatus benefit from higher testosterone levels.
Bottom line"
- it was two against one
- either Kaine or Pence could shout the female moderator down

And yet she tastefully, in feminine style served as referee, if not moderator.

Didn't she at one point tell them they could continue, but reminded them that they were off topic? - This segment is about North Korea - ?
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Moderation is about herding the cats. Not easy but not impossible. She failed.
 
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