Pence Must Testify to Jan. 6 Grand Jury, Judge Rules

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I fully believe that Mike Pence will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth....which is why there's a good chance one of Trump's Pedo Nazis will try to assassinate him before he can testify...just like they did on 1/6.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/28/us/politics/pence-testify-jan-6-grand-jury.html
Pence Must Testify to Jan. 6 Grand Jury, Judge Rules
The ruling in Washington was the latest setback to efforts by former President Donald J. Trump’s legal team to limit testimony to grand juries investigating him on various matters.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
In his favor, at least Pence defied Trump on Jan 6. But now he has to testify about it! :eek2:
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Oooh the Horror! A Trumpian having to tell the truth under oath!!!

I'm certain Pence will tell the truth...and it won't be good for Trump.

What are the odds a pro-Trump Pedo Nazi will try to assassinate Mike Pence before his testimony?
 
Doc Dutch said:
I fully believe that Mike Pence will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth....which is why there's a good chance one of Trump's Pedo Nazis will try to assassinate him before he can testify...just like they did on 1/6.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/28/us/politics/pence-testify-jan-6-grand-jury.html
Pence Must Testify to Jan. 6 Grand Jury, Judge Rules
The ruling in Washington was the latest setback to efforts by former President Donald J. Trump’s legal team to limit testimony to grand juries investigating him on various matters.
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Wouldn't you like to be the fly on his head, when he testifies?
 
Grokmaster said:
Not if its up to the Democrats, who have already been caught withholding exculpatory video evidence.

Outrageous illegal misconduct.
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If you were smarter and saner, you'd know two wrongs never make a right....but you aren't. Sad.
 
Doc Dutch said:
I fully believe that Mike Pence will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth....which is why there's a good chance one of Trump's Pedo Nazis will try to assassinate him before he can testify...just like they did on 1/6.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/28/us/politics/pence-testify-jan-6-grand-jury.html
Pence Must Testify to Jan. 6 Grand Jury, Judge Rules
The ruling in Washington was the latest setback to efforts by former President Donald J. Trump’s legal team to limit testimony to grand juries investigating him on various matters.
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My belief is that he'll tell the truth to some of the questions but also plead the Fifth if they get a little too uncomfortable.
 
Grokmaster said:
Not if its up to the Democrats, who have already been caught withholding exculpatory video evidence.

Outrageous illegal misconduct.
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The fact you feel compelled to scream your disagreement is interesting Grok. Do you scream a lot in your room at night?
 
evince said:
I don’t think he will tell the truth in full

He will not remember alot
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I think there are a lot of people willing to directly lie under oath as long as they know they cannot be caught. I think there are a lot of people willing to also do lies of omission saying they do not remember things that they do.

I think many people just do not care, or see any additional jeopardy in putting their hand on the bible and swearing to their god to '...tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god...' and as long as they feel perjury cannot be proved they are ok with that lie.


I do not think Mike Pence is amongst those people. I think Mike Pence is more fearful of putting his hand on that bible, and by doing that calling God to witness and promising God as witness he will be truthful, in all ways, and then lying, then he would be from legal ramifications of lying.

I think Mike Pence might just tell the 'whole truth and nothing but the truth' more fully than others do, not out of respect for the Office he held, his duty to the Constitution, or the country, but out of fear of calling down his God to witness and then lying to his face. that may not mean a lot to you or me, but i think it means almost everything to Mike Pence.



... To the guilt of the sin of lying it adds an infraction of the virtue of religion. An oath properly taken is an act of worship because it implies that God as witness to the truth is omniscient and infallible. Hence the wickedness of invoking the Divine testimony to confirm an untruth is specially criminal. Prescinding from cases of ignorance or insufficient deliberation this sin is reputed to be always mortal. ...
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christiefan915 said:
My belief is that he'll tell the truth to some of the questions but also plead the Fifth if they get a little too uncomfortable.
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I am curious that laws you think Pence broke that he feels he might be indicted for? I cannot think of any.


You cannot plead the 5th just to not disclose things. You can only take it if you believe your answer will put you in legal jeopardy as you would be disclosing a law you believed you broke.

If Pence was to take the 5th, I think Jack Smith would just give him immunity for what he discloses and then demand he disclose. Then if Pence did not disclose, and honestly, he would be putting himself in real legal jeopardy. Would he lie and risk going to jail for Trump? Why would he do that?
 
QP! said:
I think there are a lot of people willing to directly lie under oath as long as they know they cannot be caught. I think there are a lot of people willing to also do lies of omission saying they do not remember things that they do.

I think many people just do not care, or see any additional jeopardy in putting their hand on the bible and swearing to their god to '...tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god...' and as long as they feel perjury cannot be proved they are ok with that lie.


I do not think Mike Pence is amongst those people. I think Mike Pence is more fearful of putting his hand on that bible, and by doing that calling God to witness and promising God as witness he will be truthful, in all ways, and then lying, then he would be from legal ramifications of lying.

I think Mike Pence might just tell the 'whole truth and nothing but the truth' more fully than others do, not out of respect for the Office he held, his duty to the Constitution, or the country, but out of fear of calling down his God to witness and then lying to his face. that may not mean a lot to you or me, but i think it means almost everything to Mike Pence.
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He wanted to help cheat for trump and called people trying to confirm he could cheat for trump


Everyone he called told him it was insane to think it was anywhere near legal


He knew trump did illegal things and did nothing to stop any of it


Like all the republicans who back trump and believe in god



They think god approves of them cheating and lying for trump


They just believe an evil form of their religion that allows them to abandon all morality and excuse it as gods bidding


This is why organized religion is not a goodthing


Someone can just claim power over others in the name of Christ by starting a church which can then bastardize anything good the original religion taught


He will protect his own ass from complicity by forgetting a lot of things


We don’t need politicians who can’t remember anything that happened


He may have convinced himself that he is religious


But his actions on earth defy all he claims to find moral
 
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