Obamacare Lite is out!

Milagro said:
Screw the Constitution, or at least your interpretation of it anyway.

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Why are you so hostile towards me? My interpretation of the constitution keeps the power with us and not them. If you talk to most anybody they will always express their lack of trust with government and elected politicians. It's why our congress approval ratings are absolutely terrible. Government bureaucracy, especially the larger it gets, is one of the most inefficient and wasteful things in existence. Why would you want to entrust that same government with things like healthcare, education, and other vital things to your life? Why give them power that you can never have back again?
 
Norah said:
I'm not sure why you think that about me based on my opinion on our constitution. Look life is not fair and I'm realistic enough and honest enough to accept that fact. We are all entitled to equal opportunity thanks to our constitution but not equal outcome. We are all responsible for our own success, our own choices, our own health, our own happiness and the pursuit of that happiness even if we never fully reach it. We should never be jealous or resentful of someone else's successes, someone else's health, someone else's correct choices, or someone else's happiness. I personally believe that you are doing people a disservice by reinforcing the notion that they aren't capable of their own success, health, choices, or happiness. That being said we have a constitution that was created to describe what our government can do, not what they can't do. If we as Americans through our elected representatives pass an amendment to the constitution GIViNG the federal government OUR authority to enact a public healthcare system then that I would support that effort.
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This article in the Atlantic addresses that very succinctly, I daresay you will not agree with it!!

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ersal-health-care-is-it-constitutional/64679/

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Milagro said:
This article in the Atlantic addresses that very succinctly, I daresay you will not agree with it!!

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ersal-health-care-is-it-constitutional/64679/

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I do not agree that healthcare is part of interstate commerce. It's a slippery slope clause that could be used by politically driven people to interpret most any sort of business as a responsibility of the federal government which then consolidates more power to that central government. We should not be dependent on government. It's the other way around.
 
Norah said:
I do not agree that healthcare is part of interstate commerce. It's a slippery slope clause that could be used by politically driven people to interpret most any sort of business as a responsibility of the federal government which then consolidates more power to that central government. We should not be dependent on government. It's the other way around.
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Thanked you by mistake, Tapatalk is rubbish!! I can't say that I am surprised and is very indicative of the selfish attitudes of many Americans to such matters.

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Milagro said:
Thanked you by mistake, Tapatalk is rubbish!! I can't say that I am surprised and is very indicative of the selfish attitudes of many Americans to such matters.

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Selflessness is not about giving money to a federal government for them to then use how they want. Selfishness is expecting others to do things for you.
 
Jarod said:
The Republicans released their plan to amend Obamacare, I've been reviewing it.

Its not as good as Obamacare Classic, but not terrible. Its clearly a lot better than what we had pre-Obamacare.

Its got the expected tax giveaways to the Rich and all but the bones of Obamacare are still intact. Lets see what gets passed.
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You haven't been reviewing anything; you've been reading a summary from one of your laughably stupid left wing sources and parroting them here.

Stop pretending you have the slightest clue about anything FAKE counselor. :rofl2:
 
Jarod said:
Points for consistency, but Rump did say when running he would provide quality healthcare for everyone and that the Fed would pay for some of it.
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Link please.

By the way, Obama said his plan would reduce costs, it didn't, you could keep your doctor, you didn't, and that you could keep your plan, another lie.

Fascinating that you didn't whine and bitch and moan when Obama or Hillary lies to you. :rofl2:
 
Jarod said:
And that is the irony, they built this strawman about Obamacare that they tricked people into hating, and got elected to knock it down, but people dont want it knocked down when they look at the reality.
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It's not a strawman you lying liberal dunce; Obamacare costs more, is going to bury states and the Federal Government in trillions of debt, has caused millions to lose their BETTER coverage and their doctors.

Good lord, you give "stupid" a bad name. Dunce.
 
Jarod said:
This is the problem about getting elected on a false wedge issue, its unsustainable. You cant stay in office.
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Another dumb prediction; you're quite full of them. Obama got elected on false wedge issues AND because he was a Mullato. Dunce.
 
Jarod said:
You think, I give the populace more credit than that. Obamacare needs some changes, but repeal, which is what the Repugs ran on is untenable to the American people.
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Wrong FAKE counselor; Obamacare needs a full repeal and replacement with market based solutions.
 
Norah said:
He did promise healthcare that would cover everyone, which is not something most conservative republicans would promise, although he never went into detail about what that meant to him.
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Key words bolded; how does this jive with the FAKE counselor's bullshit.
 
TTQ64 said:
This is nothing but another republican sham.

It's lining the pockets of the rich with it's tax cuts, and throwing millions of people off the program.

As republican Jason Chaffetz said.." poor people should buy health insurance instead of a iPhone"

They are gutless, heartless, racist son's of bitches who just want to reverse everything the Black man did in office.

They have lied about Obamacare since day one so they could have an excuse to repeal it. The media will cheerlead for this disgusting piece of legislation as though it's legit. It's not.

This is why they worked so hard to steal this election to make sure Obamacare and the rest of his agenda doesn't succeed.
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The people who have lied about Oamacare since the beginning have been you lying liberals on the left and the Party of the JACKASS.

It will reduce costs; LIE
You can keep your doctor; LIE
You can keep your plan; LIE

The worst LIE of all is the effort by the FAKE media to not report the REAL costs of Obamacare as they stupidly tout that 20 million now have health insurance.

The LIE is the cost of adding 20 million people to a plan whose payment will be thrust on the American taxpayer. That cost, it will exceed a trillion dollars.....but don't expect the FAKE media to report on this.
 
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