The Congress needs to make cuts, if they don't, the debt ceiling needs to be raised. This is money already spent, not money to be spent. We need to pay our bills. I think most lack this understanding!
Obama refuses to allow the debt ceiling to be a hostage
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The Congress needs to make cuts, if they don't, the debt ceiling needs to be raised. This is money already spent, not money to be spent. We need to pay our bills. I think most lack this understanding!
Keep it to that thread, Jarod. People have given you video after video of them promoting that video as the cause of the attack. It isn't hard to know it is a lie since the reports that they knew it was a concentrated terrorist attack within 30 minutes.
Tell me again when you were last honest, Jarod... It's been so long that we've all forgotten.
The argument that it is somehow wrong to slow down and start talking about deficits while we're giving the okay to up the credit line on our credit cards to pay the mortgage, Rana. The reality is, each time we do this we have this conversation, the limit gets raised.
Of course, this President was on the other side of things when somebody else was President and so were you. Unlike you I was on the side of fiscal responsibility both times and agreed with him when he said this:
"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents -- #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic." - Barack Obama, July 3, 2008
Do the math some time. That's 4 Trill for Bush, so far 6+ for Obama and rising.
PostmodernProphet
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duh......and do you understand WHY they object to raising the debt ceiling?.......you keep dancing around it......is it because you lack this understanding?........why do you think the Dems won't vote on a budget?.....its' because they only want to discuss this when the money is already spent and we need to pay our bills.......
we wouldn't have this problem if the Dems wouldn't refuse to vote in the Senate.......
I said Congress, I don't see this being a problem for one side or the other, I see the budget as being a bi partisan issue that both sides have failed to act.
The House has passed their Budget, the Senate simply hasn't even voted on any of them since 2009. They don't even put forward their own budget for a vote.
The last one they voted on was Obama's proposed budget in 2012, and they voted against it 0-97, not one Democrat vote for the President's proposed budget. Each year they have unanimously rejected Obama's plan, but never put forward any others for any vote at all, not their own, not the one passed by the House...
And no, it isn't because of filibuster as Budget Resolutions cannot be filibustered.
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Darla
If they did actually refuse to raise the debit ceiling, the resulting crash would cost many here their jobs, their homes, their lives. A part of me kinda wants to see that, i would laugh so hard.
However, you won't see it.
Never forget that though they have a few actual crazies, most R congresspeople just act crazy. They are owned, lock stock and cock by corporate interests. They get out of bed in the morning, fall to their scraped up knees, and beg, tell me what to do today master. And they fucking get up and they do it. Fast.
And you can bet your ass that regardless of what your average Republican moron on this board says, they don't know anything other than what they are told. They are Stalin's useful idiots. They are tools used by the Republican party, true believers, and that is what makes them so useful. But if there is anybody laughing at them harder than I am, it's Republican congresspeople.
Corporate America does not want the economic meltdown refusing to raise the debt limit would cause. They will order their little bitches to make certain it's raised. This is all poker. It's a bluff. If Obama doesn't call them on their bluff, then he wants to negotiate cuts. Which always remains a possibility with this guy.
But unless he wants cuts, any little ole neighborhood cut throat bitch could handle this shit. I could do it while getting a pedicure.
However, you won't see it.
Never forget that though they have a few actual crazies, most R congresspeople just act crazy. They are owned, lock stock and cock by corporate interests. They get out of bed in the morning, fall to their scraped up knees, and beg, tell me what to do today master. And they fucking get up and they do it. Fast.
And you can bet your ass that regardless of what your average Republican moron on this board says, they don't know anything other than what they are told. They are Stalin's useful idiots. They are tools used by the Republican party, true believers, and that is what makes them so useful. But if there is anybody laughing at them harder than I am, it's Republican congresspeople.
Corporate America does not want the economic meltdown refusing to raise the debt limit would cause. They will order their little bitches to make certain it's raised. This is all poker. It's a bluff. If Obama doesn't call them on their bluff, then he wants to negotiate cuts. Which always remains a possibility with this guy.
But unless he wants cuts, any little ole neighborhood cut throat bitch could handle this shit. I could do it while getting a pedicure.
LOL.
LOL, retard.
To what? Oh, did you mean Too? So sorry.
LOL
Didn't the Senate pass a budget on March 23 2013 or am I misinformed?
Why do you keep this logical side of yourself hidden so often?
Not really. That's why Bush II sucked so much. How many times did he raise it again? Why didn't you complain then, hypocrite?
In the 1990's with the uber philanderer in charge Republicans led by Newt Gingrich refused to run up the debt ceiling twice and shut down Government; none of the dire bullshit lefttards claim will happen occurred.
Your amazing re-write of the historic record and emotional nonsense about dire circumstances for a shutdown is illustrative of someone more inclined to empty headed parroting of DNC talking points to anything reality based or coherent.
The United States federal government shutdown of 1995 and 1996 was the result of conflicts between Democratic President Bill Clinton and the Congress over funding for Medicare, education, the environment, and public health in the 1996 federal budget. The government shut down after Clinton vetoed the spending bill the Republican Party-controlled Congress sent him. The federal government of the United States put non-essential government workers on furlough and suspended non-essential services from November 14 through November 19, 1995 and from December 16, 1995 to January 6, 1996, for a total of 28 days. The major players were President Clinton and Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_shutdown_of_1995
Dumbasses.
tekkychick
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Actually, we have to raise the debt ceiling. Period. As you said, this is for money already spent; no amount of deficit cutting right now will impact the spending we have already done.
Debt ceiling needs to get raised.
Now, attacking the deficit (which is already coming down) can also be done if Congress wants to work on that. But since Congress can't manage to do two things at once, it will need to be done after raising the debt ceiling.
No we don't dumbass:
In the 1990's with the uber philanderer in charge Republicans led by Newt Gingrich refused to run up the debt ceiling twice and shut down Government; none of the dire bullshit lefttards claim will happen occurred.
The United States federal government shutdown of 1995 and 1996 was the result of conflicts between Democratic President Bill Clinton and the Congress over funding for Medicare, education, the environment, and public health in the 1996 federal budget. The government shut down after Clinton vetoed the spending bill the Republican Party-controlled Congress sent him. The federal government of the United States put non-essential government workers on furlough and suspended non-essential services from November 14 through November 19, 1995 and from December 16, 1995 to January 6, 1996, for a total of 28 days. The major players were President Clinton and Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...utdown_of_1995
Dumbasses.
Yo, asshat; Bush isn't in charge anymore. Try to focus you effeminate moron.
I am always amused by hypocrites on the left who now wine about presumed hypocrisy by Republicans.
Its official Rune, you’re an idiot.
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The Almighty
Well, at least he was right at one point in time...
Yes, they passed a budget for the first time in almost a decade with a $1 trillion tax increase. It was a joke that never had a chance to pass in the House which the ass clown Harry Reid knew would be the case, but that wasn't their goal. Their goal was to play partisan politics to fool gullible idiots like you into electing Democrats.
This is why we still pass continuing resolutions every six months that fund the Government and which the buffoon in charge plays politics with.
So no, there was no budget.
The budget plan was passed by a 50-49 vote in the Democratic-controlled chamber. Four Democratic senators facing tough re-election campaigns in 2014 joined all the Senate Republicans in opposing the measure, which seeks to raise nearly $1 trillion in new tax revenues by closing some tax breaks for the wealthy.
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