No Christmas For Ivanka.

anatta said:
ponder life. think of the order in the cosmos, and the order in your body own microbiology.
all working flawlessly over eons of time

If that isn't done by a creator/force it's one heck of a happenstance!
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It's a mind blower alright. It would certainly take a God to just snap his fingers and make it all happen as we know it.

But then again, things have been evolving into what we know now for millions of years.

God wanting us to follow him and be Christians is nice and all, but why would a God create a planet, arrange for us to multiply and be born here, live our lives here, and then select the ones he wants to go to heaven, based on loyalty and belief in him/her/it?

I mean, if it truly is a God, and it could do anything it wanted, and it wanted us in heaven, why not just create us there to begin with, without all the hassle of having us be born on Earth, living a life that could be 100 years, and then dying a horrible death first?

Is God a control freak or what? Not even sure it is a nice it- whatever it is!

I'm sorry, but if there is a God, God gave me a mind, and I intend to use it- even if my mind don't believe in GODS!
 
Peace n Safety said:
Reminds me of when Tommy Hearns took the Nestea Plunge vs Hagler!

Blessin’s
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My wife asked me to go get 6 cans of Sprite from the grocery store. I realized when I got home that I had picked 7 up.
RomanDmowski said:
Funny, my 6,500+ posts?

Why are Christians here more racist than anti Christians?
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Intelligent people often find me funny. Less intelligent people, not so much.

I give up; why are you, Stretch, PmP and others more racist than anti-Christians?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
A national holiday for religious reasons. If the US was 3/4s Muslim, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha would be a national holidays regardless if people were Christian, Jewish or purely secular.
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True. I don't see a whole lot of religion in the holiday anymore. A few years ago the city wanted to change the holiday theme from "Christmas Season" to "Sparkle Season" and there was a big public outcry. Yet Christmas did turn into a big secular holiday over the years, more about shopping and partying than church-going, so Sparkle Season was appropriate to describe it.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
It's a mind blower alright. It would certainly take a God to just snap his fingers and make it all happen as we know it.

But then again, things have been evolving into what we know now for millions of years.

God wanting us to follow him and be Christians is nice and all, but why would a God create a planet, arrange for us to multiply and be born here, live our lives here, and then select the ones he wants to go to heaven, based on loyalty and belief in him/her/it?

I mean, if it truly is a God, and it could do anything it wanted, and it wanted us in heaven, why not just create us there to begin with, without all the hassle of having us be born on Earth, living a life that could be 100 years, and then dying a horrible death first?

Is God a control freak or what? Not even sure it is a nice it- whatever it is!

I'm sorry, but if there is a God, God gave me a mind, and I intend to use it- even if my mind don't believe in GODS!
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The very question I asked my mom (devout Christian and Sunday School teacher) when I was nine. No satisfactory answer. Asked of many ministers of various Xtian flavors over the years, same results. Tis one of the reasons why I walked away decades ago.
 
christiefan915 said:
True. I don't see a whole lot of religion in the holiday anymore. A few years ago the city wanted to change the holiday theme from "Christmas Season" to "Sparkle Season" and there was a big public outcry. Yet Christmas did turn into a big secular holiday over the years, more about shopping and partying than church-going, so Sparkle Season was appropriate to describe it.
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In some places I've seen the season referred to as the festival of lights, although I think that name also belongs to Hanukkah.

Did Fox do their annual War on Christmas special, or did I miss it -- again? :laugh:
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
It's a mind blower alright. It would certainly take a God to just snap his fingers and make it all happen as we know it.

But then again, things have been evolving into what we know now for millions of years.

God wanting us to follow him and be Christians is nice and all, but why would a God create a planet, arrange for us to multiply and be born here, live our lives here, and then select the ones he wants to go to heaven, based on loyalty and belief in him/her/it?

I mean, if it truly is a God, and it could do anything it wanted, and it wanted us in heaven, why not just create us there to begin with, without all the hassle of having us be born on Earth, living a life that could be 100 years, and then dying a horrible death first?

Is God a control freak or what? Not even sure it is a nice it- whatever it is!

I'm sorry, but if there is a God, God gave me a mind, and I intend to use it- even if my mind don't believe in GODS!
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you are looking at god/creator as a micro manger. Obviously that POV is human centric.

I mean the grand scheme of things - life is on other planets.
the idea of life force as a common phenomena and the physics involved are absolutely amazing on a grand scale.

I'm a Buddhist. I dont need to concern myself with god or God; still I am also a curious mind.

These are philosophical questions
,and when you think them out it's difficult to believe everything involved just was random happenstance

I'm not saying one way or the other - am just interested in getting you to ponder the universe
and it's grand complexities, but also the miniature biochemistry and physics of subatomic particles
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
In some places I've seen the season referred to as the festival of lights, although I think that name also belongs to Hanukkah.

Did Fox do their annual War on Christmas special, or did I miss it -- again? :laugh:
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About Fox I can't say because I never watch it. But if they did it before they probably did it this year also.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
It's a mind blower alright. It would certainly take a God to just snap his fingers and make it all happen as we know it.

But then again, things have been evolving into what we know now for millions of years.

God wanting us to follow him and be Christians is nice and all, but why would a God create a planet, arrange for us to multiply and be born here, live our lives here, and then select the ones he wants to go to heaven, based on loyalty and belief in him/her/it?

I mean, if it truly is a God, and it could do anything it wanted, and it wanted us in heaven, why not just create us there to begin with, without all the hassle of having us be born on Earth, living a life that could be 100 years, and then dying a horrible death first?

Is God a control freak or what? Not even sure it is a nice it- whatever it is!

I'm sorry, but if there is a God, God gave me a mind, and I intend to use it- even if my mind don't believe in GODS!
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Why God allowed it? We do not know. Did God plan for the fall of Adam? No. God foresaw the fall and God permitted the creation to go through knowing that Adam would fall causing death to come upon the whole human race.

You may disagree with this statement but it is what the scriptures teach concerning our fallen world.

Many within Christendom attempt to fix the dilemma here insisting that man is responsible for rejecting God and thus becomes damned. The Bible is very clear that all men are already condemned and headed to hell from the womb. That is why sometimes there is infant deaths because even before the child commits their first sin, death is for all.

As a Christian here is the proper view concerning the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

God foresaw that the fall would take place and permitted the creation to move forward because He planned to reach into humanity and save some from the masses while passing over others. There was no merit involved in the election of those who will come to faith. It was purely the outworking of the love of God and the grace of God.


Blessin’s
 
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