Mayors want feds to drop pot from the list

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Coming from you? I consider your defamation of my character a badge of honor.

Most statists are proud of their tyrannical loving behavior. You are a gobblement stooge. You love it. You cozy up with it. Then you have the balls to whine and bitch about the crony capitalism it feeds off to survive. You expect morality out of the corporations you revile but willfully overlook the immorality in the gobblement you embrace. Spare me your phony indignation as it is your ideology that fuels that which you condemn.

 

[tekkychick]

I'd like to see publicly funded elections. No outside money at all....from Corporations, From Unions, from special interest groups, or from lobbyists.....probably would save trillions in pandering.legislation. I also propose that no Federally Elected Official can work in the private sector for 10 years after his/her leaving office....they have too much inside information.

I wouldn't mind publicly funded elections. And a much shorter election season. Something more like England's system. Not sure how we get there given our free speech protections. Might have to be a constitutional amendment.

As far as elected official not rotating to the private sector post-office - they do have to earn money somehow; but keeping them from going to lobbyists would be good. Open to ideas around this.

 

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I wouldn't mind publicly funded elections. And a much shorter election season. Something more like England's system. Not sure how we get there given our free speech protections. Might have to be a constitutional amendment.

As far as elected official not rotating to the private sector post-office - they do have to earn money somehow; but keeping them from going to lobbyists would be good. Open to ideas around this.

What a scary post. Those pesky 1st Amendment protections stand in the way of your tyrannical views.

Hey Desh your girl Tekkychick hates the Constitution

 

[cawacko]

I'd like to see publicly funded elections. No outside money at all....from Corporations, From Unions, from special interest groups, or from lobbyists.....probably would save trillions in pandering.legislation. I also propose that no Federally Elected Official can work in the private sector for 10 years after his/her leaving office....they have too much inside information.

If no federally elected official can work in the private sector for 10 years after leaving office what would you propose they do for a living during that time?

 

[Steelplate]

If no federally elected official can work in the private sector for 10 years after leaving office what would you propose they do for a living during that time?

I.kind of meant in.positions.of power or lobbying activity....sorry....I guess I was a little broad there.

 

[cawacko]

I.kind of meant in.positions.of power or lobbying activity....sorry....I guess I was a little broad there.

Fair enough.

 

[Steelplate]

What a scary post. Those pesky 1st Amendment protections stand in the way of your tyrannical views.

Hey Desh your girl Tekkychick hates the Constitution

Hey....you can speak all you want....but.no outside monetary influences......shout from the fucking rooftops....leave your checkbook at home.

 

[evince]

some people prefer what money says to what humans say

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Hey....you can speak all you want....but.no outside monetary influences......shout from the fucking rooftops....leave your checkbook at home.

So how do you overcome the institutional advantage of incumbents?

 

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some people prefer what money says to what humans say

Your boy Obama thinks money is speech or he wouldn't be raising money all the time. Oh wait, he doesn't like it, he is just another victim of the system. I get it

 

[evince]

so because hes black hes NOT allowed to follow the same rules as everyone else?

 

[Steelplate]

So how do you overcome the institutional advantage of incumbents?

Voting record, how well the incumbent has done is job.....according to the stances.on the issues of the Constituency....vs....What the opposition's platform is according to the same criteria.

You know? How it's supposed to work.

 

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so because hes black hes NOT allowed to follow the same rules as everyone else?

Where did I mention his color? The discussion is a about money. Stop your race baiting

 

[evince]

then why do you think he should have to use differing rules?

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Voting record, how well the incumbent has done is job.....according to the stances.on the issues of the Constituency....vs....What the opposition's platform is according to the same criteria.

You know? How it's supposed to work.

How does a challenger get their message out? How does a challenger compete with an incumbent who has the ability to call a press conference?

All your plan will do is institutionalize incumbency. You live in a fantasy world. We send more money on advertising potato chips than we do on elections

 

[tekkychick]

Voting record, how well the incumbent has done is job.....according to the stances.on the issues of the Constituency....vs....What the opposition's platform is according to the same criteria.

You know? How it's supposed to work.

Incumbents also tend to have a lot more money than challengers. Very few challengers raise enough money to fight that. Some do - Elizabeth Warren, for example. But hers was a race that was watched nationally.

Our current incumbent(repub) has so much money from prior campaigns he's swimming in it. He's putting ads all over the place. And he's in a heavily republican district, so he can use his money to do whatever the heck he wants. Even finding a republican candidate to seriously challenge him in the primary will be difficult. We basically have to wait until he retires or gets hired by a lobbying firm. His money speaks pretty darned loudly. He's a do-nothing tea partier, but we're stuck with him. Yeah, public financing would be nice...

 

[Steelplate]

How does a challenger get their message out? How does a challenger compete with an incumbent who has the ability to call a press conference?

All your plan will do is institutionalize incumbency. You live in a fantasy world. We send more money on advertising potato chips than we do on elections

Why do you think only incumbents would have access to the campaign money? Granted....you couldn't just say Hey, I'm running! And grab a piece of the pie. You would have to be vetted, and Primary elections would still have to take.place.

But once the general election came around....you and your opponent would have a fixed amount of money...equal amounts.

 

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Why do you think only incumbents would have access to the campaign money? Granted....you couldn't just say Hey, I'm running! And grab a piece of the pie. You would have to be vetted, and Primary elections would still have to take.place.

But once the general election came around....you and your opponent would have a fixed amount of money...equal amounts.

So who does the vetting? What another bureaucracy? Oh yeah there would be no corruption in that.

Incumbents would have a bigger advantage than they do now. They could announce legislation and call a press conference. They have more access to the media. To claim it would be a level playing field is ludicrous.

Lastly, why should any taxpayer be forced to pay money to fund campaigns? Is there an limit to what you want taxpayers to be forced to fund?

 

[Steelplate]

So who does the vetting? What another bureaucracy? Oh yeah there would be no corruption in that.

Incumbents would have a bigger advantage than they do now. They could announce legislation and call a press conference. They have more access to the media. To claim it would be a level playing field is ludicrous.

Lastly, why should any taxpayer be forced to pay money to fund campaigns? Is there an limit to what you want taxpayers to be forced to fund?

The voters do the vetting in the primaries....they have debates...just like they do now.

Incumbents have greater media access? No shit....but their voting record and their stances on the issues are still public record and there for everyone to see. It's called accountability. If the incumbent is doing a good job for his/her constituents....why SHOULDN'T he/she be re-elected? If he/she is not....then let his her PUBLIC record be their downfall.


What we have now is bullshit lies and half truths spewed every fucking 10 minutes on TV by anonymous douchebags with shady fucking names like "Americans for Prosperity" or Citizens for Progress"(to make it even). It's like Jerry Springer is running everyone's campaign.

To your last point? Because.....it will eliminate the stranglehold that monied interests have on our political process....and yes, I am talking left wing interests too. It will reduce corruption(I'm not sure you can ever eliminate it), and put people in office that actually WANT to SERVE this country and it's people.

 

[/MSG/]

Well, there are differences. Sometimes subtle, sometimes not. Do you really think there is no difference between Elizabeth Warren and Scott Brown?

Well, I guess only 1 pisses sitting down, but other than that...

Between McCain and Obama?

Nope.

Between Gov Scott Walker of Wisconsin and any Democrat there?

In terms of net result? None.

Then you may not be paying close enough attention.

Well please then, by all means explain their differences. Or are they different like Coke and Pepsi are different?

My county went from a conservative republican to a do-nothing Tea Party republican. There IS a difference, although it's subtle. But we're worse off now than we were.

Cool story bro.