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dukkha said:
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I said he never stopped being a millitary man you imbecile.

https://www.stripes.com/news/special-reports/featured/mccain/the-mccains-a-military-legacy-1.532541
 
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dukkha said:
that is a conflagration of Section 230 protection while violating the provision of not acting as a publisher.
Enforcing political judgement about "lies" is at best hit and miss -worse if there is bias by Dorsey etc.
It's a real cancel culture

that's not even a slippery slope -it's a straight downhill run to a fascist press
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I am not worried about a fascist press~ & frankly neither are you..........:|

Now that fox sees the trump knife in the back in their future even they are pulling away from his insane assault on our system........

If I was you I would keep my PFD handy should the good ship bone spur hit an ice berg over the next month or so.........
 
cawacko said:
What was the mess left behind by H.W?
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The debt. Corona that Trump completely fucked up. He has NATO on the ropes and would kill it with more time. He has alienated our allies. He has trashed the economy with his Corona mishandling. He has watched over 100,000 companies close. He has a huge unemployment problem that will take a long time to fix. He has energized white power and Nazis. He has gutted regulation polluting the air , land, and water. he has managed to make Iran a seeker of nukes after we had that problem solved. He allowed North Korea to create a nuclear stockpile. He has used tariffs like the ignorant bully he is with bad results. Economists warned him. He has debased that language of politics in general and the presidency in specific. He has ignored the rules other presidents have followed like emoluments. he set the Supremes up to end Roe v wade and make it even better for corporations than they already have. The Roberts court is the most pro business anti-worker of all time.
The big baby won't even go to the press dinner.
 
dukkha said:
solve what??? The civil war?
this isn't Damascus, or Idlib or Aleppo. its the nothern border with Turkey, where the Kurds had expanded along.

Erdogan wanted them out. Erdogan launched an offensive, and Turk weapons cleared a " buffer zone"
Erdogan was wanting..

Where is Trump and the USA in this?? Do you want to be part of it? Dems are a bunch of interventionists
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Like I said, it was a betrayal of our allies the Kurds. No more, no less, and typical trump/right wing.

Not sure how we would have been interventionists when we were already there, and had to leave so Erdogan could slaughter innocent women, and children.
 
Nordberg said:
The debt. Corona that Trump completely fucked up. He has NATO on the ropes and would kill it with more time. He has alienated our allies. He has trashed the economy with his Corona mishandling. He has watched over 100,000 companies close. He has a huge unemployment problem that will take a long time to fix. He has energized white power and Nazis. He has gutted regulation polluting the air , land, and water. he has managed to make Iran a seeker of nukes after we had that problem solved. He allowed North Korea to create a nuclear stockpile. He has used tariffs like the ignorant bully he is with bad results. Economists warned him. He has debased that language of politics in general and the presidency in specific. He has ignored the rules other presidents have followed like emoluments. he set the Supremes up to end Roe v wade and make it even better for corporations than they already have. The Roberts court is the most pro business anti-worker of all time.
The big baby won't even go to the press dinner.
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George H.W. Bush did all that? Wow.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Biden promised to listen to scientists' advice on how best to fight this virus. Is that so much to ask? Trump, being Trump, had to make it all about him and his re-election, so he downplayed the virus, which ironically may have cost him the election.
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Depends on whether it's actual science or the science of politics that can use something based on hate for Trump. Is that too hard for you to see?

What I noticed since the election is that large groups gathered to celebrate the supposed Biden victory yet little to nothing has been said about it by the media. In contrast, when Trump held rallies before the election, all sorts of things were said about large gatherings.

People couldn't go to funerals or visit loved ones in nursing homes yet a thug's actions get him killed and rioters, looters, and arsonists do their thing in large groups without regard to the virus.

If you want to accept junk science because of politics, go ahead.
 
Old Trapper said:
Like I said, it was a betrayal of our allies the Kurds. No more, no less, and typical trump/right wing.
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did we break out word? promie to establish a Kurdistan? no. It was a trans actional relationship of mutual interests

Not sure how we would have been interventionists when we were already there, and had to leave so Erdogan could slaughter innocent women, and children.
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BECAUSE WE ARE STILL THERE WITH NO REASON TO BE THERE - and you guys want us stuck in Syria
 
Wow!

I knew that the Trump puppets would go ape-shit if he lost, but even I did not think they would go on and on like they are doing.

I suspected I would enjoy it...

...but this is almost too much fun.

Hey, Trump puppets...keep on truckin'.

I am loving it!

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Frank Apisa said:
Wow!

I knew that the Trump puppets would go ape-shit if he lost, but even I did not think they would go on and on like they are doing.

I suspected I would enjoy it...

...but this is almost too much fun.

Hey, Trump puppets...keep on truckin'.

I am loving it!

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It's OK old man, you senile ass will die of old age soon enough and rot in hell. I suspect I'll enjoy it.
 
Bill said:
lying & propaganda are not opinions..........

trump just fired a guy on twitter, a man on the federal payroll in his regime...........

Was that a fuckin opinion?? SO he can go punch in on Tuesday like it was just an opinion??

trump wants it both ways, all ways.........

good riddance...........
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Yes it certainly was his opinion
 
Frank Apisa said:
Wow!

I knew that the Trump puppets would go ape-shit if he lost, but even I did not think they would go on and on like they are doing.

I suspected I would enjoy it...

...but this is almost too much fun.

Hey, Trump puppets...keep on truckin'.

I am loving it!

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They are RW nutjobs. Trumpeteers. Of course they'd go nuts if Trump lost. I expect a few dozen murders to be tied to RW terrorism before this is over.
 
dukkha said:
did we break out word? promie to establish a Kurdistan? no. It was a trans actional relationship of mutual interests
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Proving once again that the right wing does not understand the meaning of "allies", or the need for friends. Nor is there any reason for one to think they will support an ally, or keep their word.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...rump-promised-he-would-protect-kurds-n1068071

BECAUSE WE ARE STILL THERE WITH NO REASON TO BE THERE - and you guys want us stuck in Syria
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But it is your gawd that kept them there. "You guys", meaning the left I suppose, did not have the power to do so.
 
Rune said:
Let me help you out a bit, since you are so fucking ignorant.

Cheney Wolfawitz and Rumsfeld, The Evil Triumvirate, were the "Neocons."
Dubya was hired by Cheney to be President because Cheney himself was unelectable.

Bush Jr. was a weak POTUS, Cheney and Rummy were the power behind the throne.
It took Dubya 7.5 years but in the end he did finally rebuff Cheney.
McCain was the only politician period who stood up to Cheney's (via Yu) desire to torture foreign enemy combatants. Even McCain isn't a neo-con, he is simply part of the Military, as described by Ike in his Military Industrial Complex speech. McCain came from a line of Military officers. He just never stopped be a warrior. That didn't make him a Neo-con.

In 1992, the Cold War was over. But the Defense Department was already planning for the next one.
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. In the atmosphere of punch-drunk Cold War triumphalism that followed the Soviet Union’s collapse, a small group of neoconservatives in Dick Cheney’s Defense Department started planning for a unipolar world. The document they drafted in the waning days of the George H. W. Bush administration, the 1992 Defense Planning Guidance (DPG), was a road



https://jacobinmag.com/2019/08/the-wolfowitz-doctrine

No matter how you slice it, Bush Jr was never a neo-con. He was used by neocons.

Kristol and Boot? What difference do they make? They are talking heads.
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Quoting from a socialist publication as well.... Yeah, as I said, you have nothing to offer.
 
Saudade said:
We have a long history of leaving allies behind. It doesn't make it right per se, but it's certainly not unique to Trump among American presidents.

However, leaving a useless conflict isn't a bad thing overall.
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Sorry, but I don't like draft-dodging cowards and serial liars as President. Trump wasn't the first to be a draft-dodging coward and serial liar but he is most certainly a draft-dodging coward and serial liar. I never voted for or forgave Bill Clinton and have no reason to vote for or forgive Donald J. Trump.

The fact he has fucked up our relations around the world is secondary.
 
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