MAMA

Sorry, but I don't like draft-dodging cowards and serial liars as President. Trump wasn't the first to be a draft-dodging coward and serial liar but he is most certainly a draft-dodging coward and serial liar. I never voted for or forgave Bill Clinton and have no reason to vote for or forgive Donald J. Trump.

The fact he has fucked up our relations around the world is secondary.

Having Israel recognized by multiple Muslim nations doesn't sound like a fuckup to me.

Neither does de-escalating the Syrian conflict.
 
We have a long history of leaving allies behind. It doesn't make it right per se, but it's certainly not unique to Trump among American presidents.

However, leaving a useless conflict isn't a bad thing overall.

Aside from the fact that we were losing, what was "useless" about it to the point that we leave women, and children, to be slaughtered?

BTW, all that ISIS did was move back to Iraq, and we are still fighting them.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/real-world-capabilities-isis-threat-continues
 
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Proving once again that the right wing does not understand the meaning of "allies", or the need for friends. Nor is there any reason for one to think they will support an ally, or keep their word.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...rump-promised-he-would-protect-kurds-n1068071
what is an allie? are we permanently wedded to the Kurds like we are NATO and Article 5? :palm:

I just told you we had a transactional relationship do you even comprehend what that is? no.

You think we need to stay in Syria..for what was it? Stopping Erdogan cross border offensive?
How were we supposed to do that - because Turkey was going to clear it's "buffer zone" come hell or high water.

Trump wasn't going to stop them. he couldn't have!
Our force was minimal -did you want us to beef it up to actually contest Turkish advance?

You just blather without any knowledge of the area/ players.
Erdogan has been saying for months he was going to 'clean out the Kurds'.
He considers the YPG and the PKK "terrorists"

https://www.euronews.com/2019/10/16...behind-turkey-s-war-in-syria-euronews-answers
Turkey's invasion of Syria aimed to crush the YPG, the Syrian ally of the PKK. ... The YPG has historic links with the PKK, who are listed as a 'terrorist organisation' by many including the UN

it is your gawd that kept them there. "You guys", meaning the left I suppose, did not have the power to do so.
^gibberish

as to the Kurdish general you quote -if you HAD A FUCKING CLUE of the military power structure in Syria
you would immediately dismiss that claim..
Trump didn't have the ability to stop the Turkish advance even if he wanted to
 
Sorry, but I don't like draft-dodging cowards and serial liars as President. Trump wasn't the first to be a draft-dodging coward and serial liar but he is most certainly a draft-dodging coward and serial liar. I never voted for or forgave Bill Clinton and have no reason to vote for or forgive Donald J. Trump.

The fact he has fucked up our relations around the world is secondary.
fuck Vietnam war. draft dodgers were correct. US lost 50k dead for absolutely no reason
 
We now have a President for all Americans - not just someone who cares mainly about himself, and (secondary) his base.

Trump is leaving him a country that is more divided than ever, and with one of the worst economies we have had in decades. Like other Democrats before him (Clinton, then Obama), I expect Biden to clean up the mess & get things back on track.

President for all Americans? Fuck you and fuck your perceived sense of unity! All the DemocraP party did was attack President Trump (get it right) from day one and you want us to unite? Fuck that and fuck you and the rest of the entire left! And back on track to what? High taxes and anemic growth? No thank you.
 
what is an allie? are we permanently wedded to the Kurds like we are NATO and Article 5? :palm:

I just told you we had a transactional relationship do you even comprehend what that is? no.

You think we need to stay in Syria..for what was it? Stopping Erdogan cross border offensive?
How were we supposed to do that - because Turkey was going to clear it's "buffer zone" come hell or high water.

Trump wasn't going to stop them. he couldn't have!
Our force was minimal -did you want us to beef it up to actually contest Turkish advance?

You just blather without any knowledge of the area/ players.
Erdogan has been saying for months he was going to 'clean out the Kurds'.
He considers the YPG and the PKK "terrorists"

https://www.euronews.com/2019/10/16...behind-turkey-s-war-in-syria-euronews-answers
Turkey's invasion of Syria aimed to crush the YPG, the Syrian ally of the PKK. ... The YPG has historic links with the PKK, who are listed as a 'terrorist organisation' by many including the UN

^gibberish

as to the Kurdish general you quote -if you HAD A FUCKING CLUE of the military power structure in Syria
you would immediately dismiss that claim..
Trump didn't have the ability to stop the Turkish advance even if he wanted to

Enough of your infantile posturing. The Kurds were our allies by any definition an ass like you wants to use. We were their protection from the expressed goals of Erdogan. We left, the Turks invaded the country held by the Kurds, and women, and children, were killed. End of story.
 
President for all Americans? Fuck you and fuck your perceived sense of unity! All the DemocraP party did was attack President Trump (get it right) from day one and you want us to unite? Fuck that and fuck you and the rest of the entire left! And back on track to what? High taxes and anemic growth? No thank you.

trump was attacked with the truth which is unknown to your type of asshole. You f**ked up ignorant bastards "investigated" Obama from the day he took office, and came away with NOTHING but a pile of debt you foisted on the American taxpayer. Now you lie, and claim that trump was "investigated" from day one. BY WHO you f**king idiot? Certainly not your Repugnant bastards since they controlled all three branches of government. Then who.

Now tell us you f**ked up mental midget, who is going to pay for the increase in debt left by your idiot gawd trump, and how is it to be done?
 
trump was attacked with the truth which is unknown to your type of asshole. You f**ked up ignorant bastards "investigated" Obama from the day he took office, and came away with NOTHING but a pile of debt you foisted on the American taxpayer. Now you lie, and claim that trump was "investigated" from day one. BY WHO you f**king idiot? Certainly not your Repugnant bastards since they controlled all three branches of government. Then who.

Now tell us you f**ked up mental midget, who is going to pay for the increase in debt left by your idiot gawd trump, and how is it to be done?

Eat shit and die you old gink. Obunghole the HNIC racked up more debt for worthless programs than any President before him.
 
you idiot
ISIS as a unified force is gone. at best it's somewhere along the lines of AQIR -it's predecessor
Really it's not much more then an unorganized insurgency now

Your posturing in the bent over position to protect your gawd trump is really quite embarrassing, for a person with moral values anyway. ISIS is now called ISIL. Look it up stupid.
 
Your posturing in the bent over position to protect your gawd trump is really quite embarrassing, for a person with moral values anyway. ISIS is now called ISIL. Look it up stupid.
HA HA HA
damn you are dumb.

1. AQIR
2. ISIL
3.ISIS
4 nothing (unorganized headless insurgeny)

is the timeline
 
Enough of your infantile posturing. The Kurds were our allies by any definition an ass like you wants to use. We were their protection from the expressed goals of Erdogan. We left, the Turks invaded the country held by the Kurds, and women, and children, were killed. End of story.
ha ha ha

pure fiction -we never protected the Kurds from the Turks -Turks didn't cross the border except for some shelling
Do you have any idea of the Turkish army? our little force could not stop them

Why would you want to go to war with Turkey?
 
ha ha ha

pure fiction -we never protected the Kurds from the Turks -Turks didn't cross the border except for some shelling
Do you have any idea of the Turkish army? our little force could not stop them

Why would you want to go to war with Turkey?

Shut up you immoral idiot.
 
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