Dutch Uncle
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Your defense of the fucking Russians is noted. Why do you think I'm statist?
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Your defense of the fucking Russians is noted. Why do you think I'm statist?
this is old, and we have had way too many conflicts with Russia ( proof the notifications dont always work)
but it's the basis of mutual air power ops in Syria
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US, Russia To Deconflict in Syria
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2015/09/29/us-russia-to-deconflict-in-syria/
but it's the basis of mutual air power ops in Syria
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US, Russia To Deconflict in Syria
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2015/09/29/us-russia-to-deconflict-in-syria/
Dutch Uncle
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Comrade, it's the other way around: Russia has too many conflicts with the United States of America.
If a Russian patriot would stand up and cap Putin in the back of the head, those conflicts would be reduced. Do it for Russia, comrade. Do it for yourself.
STFU.. idiot. a conflict is between 2 parties in this case of the US and Russia and Syria.
I'm not even going into the fact Syria is a long time Russian client state -
it would confuse your already addled delusions
Dutch Uncle
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Make me, Comrade anatta. I know you've tried, but as usual, you always fail just like your beloved Russia.
Funny how you condemn the United States for their international relations yet you staunchly defend Russia's interference in the ME with "client state" bullshit......or is that bullshitski?
moron. it's called "geopolitics"
Syria is not the entire ME -but Syria is a Russian client state.
The US has much more sway in the Gulf states/Israel/KSA and to an extent Egypt,although Russia has been making advances with both since Obama stupidly put sanctions on Egypt
childish
Dutch Uncle
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Bitch, whine and moan all you like, comrade, but your defense of Mother Russia is clear for all to see. Clearly you put Russian interests over American interests.
If you are a Russian agent, that's expected. If you are an American committing treason by supporting Russia, that too is expected, but will be handled differently.
trollish blather.
Old Trapper
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So you support leaving women, and children, behind to be slaughtered.
Old Trapper
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Not the point. In this case we could have prevented the slaughter simply by not leaving. However, under the new trump/right wing ideology we now are allowed to leave entire families to be slaughtered, persecuted, whatever. And then they claim to oppose abortion.
Old Trapper
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I am going to ask you as I do so many of your kind, do you work at being stupid, or is it just natural for you to be so?
But tell us dumb f**k, if the US had not left do you really think that Turkey would have been stupid enough to risk going to war with us? But you see fool, there is this thing called "HONOR" which asses like you know nothing of. In the military there is a saying "leave no one behind". That is HONOR. And it applies to all, not just the military. And we either honor that commitment, or we ignore it.
Dutch Uncle
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in the interest of time i'll ignore the rest of your blithering, and focus on where you actually pose a question.
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I just gave you how de-confliction procedures work, and how they are already used in Syria between US Air and Russia
Do you at least get the idea they would have been used the same manner between Turkey and the USA??
got that much?
so if de-confliction was used -and it would have - why would Turkey not have gone in under that auspice?
Erdogan did warn Trump -he didn't ask permission but he DID WARN
He would have used the SAME WARNING (deconfliction) if we had stayed, and then gone in
Yes he would have gone in under de-confliction procedures -and that isn't even taking into account Erdogan
answers to no one - much less a request from the USA
Old Trapper
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Love it when you confuse reality with the fantasy world a wannabe intellect ( https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...prevent-risk-of-a-us-russian-clash-over-syria ) like you speaks up, and ignores the point of a post. And that point is one of "HONOR" which you obviously have no use for as your gawd trump has no use for.
that's paywalled or requires a registration.
I didn't particularly say "deconfliction" works (effective) -in fact I mentioned it's far from perfect.
But de-confliction IS the procedure used in Syria, and clearly would have been used between Turkey and the USA
as Ergodan went in with or without us there.
there is not one damn honorable thing about being killed in Syria
to save Kurds, Syria , or anyone else not in the direct interest of the USA. we learned that from Iraq,
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did you see this? oh snap!
Turkish forces advance in Syria as US troops come under fire
https://apnews.com/article/2beb641ae63a4a4fb07e77cfa962d68f
In a complicating twist, Washington said its troops also came under fire from NATO ally Turkey.
No U.S. troops were hurt in Friday’s explosion at the small U.S. outpost, and the artillery strike marked the first time a coalition base was in the line of fire since Turkey’s offensive began.
A Favorite Restaurant in Syria Led ISIS to Americans Jan. 17, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/world/middleeast/syria-bombing-manbij-attack.html
In Manbij, Syria, U.S. officials would walk through the market and eat at restaurants. Then on Jan. 16, a suicide bomber killed four Americans and at least 12 others, and a place once seen by many as a safe haven became anything but.CreditCredit...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/world/middleeast/syria-bombing-manbij-attack.html
In Manbij, Syria, U.S. officials would walk through the market and eat at restaurants. Then on Jan. 16, a suicide bomber killed four Americans and at least 12 others, and a place once seen by many as a safe haven became anything but.CreditCredit...
Old Trapper
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Enough lies from the treasonous one who lacks anything resembling honor, or integrity.
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weird/ now I cliked on it and i see the whole article. Just WTF is your point here?
It's a goofy article complaining about the use of "jargon' to describe the policy.
I am not military and the policy is easy enough to understand -why are you ranting on this?
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As to "honor" it's really easy to call for honor when it's the other guys blood on the line
Armchair generals who dont consider/understand the full weight military operation of Erdogan
"clearing" a zone best STFU about "honor"..... Can you say "collateral damage?"
That would be a great improvement.
I only defend them to the extent that I don't think they're any worse than a lot of other people. I think they're far better than the Chinese, for example.
I was commenting on your view of "draft dodgers." While I can sympathize with disdain for wealthy elites in general that dodged the draft, draft dodging during the Vietnam era by working class people made sense. It was a pointless war not worth dying for.