Jihadists Syria rebels pledge loyalty to Qaeda groups

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Hundreds of rebels have pledged allegiance to al Qaeda-affiliated forces in northern and eastern Syria, activists and Islamist sources said on Friday, strengthening the group's control in the region.

Not only individual fighters, but entire units have joined the small but powerful al Qaeda-linked groups - the Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - in recent days, according to the sources inside Syria.

"This is a sign the radical groups are still growing in power. This region could fall to the jihadists," said an activist in the eastern town of Raqqa, who asked not to be identified. "We may see this become a trend."

Clashes have been intensifying between Nusra or ISIL and the less effective but more moderate forces that make up the majority of opposition fighters, especially in opposition-held territory along Syria's northern and eastern borders.

At least two entire rebel brigades are said to have joined the Nusra Front in the opposition-held province of Raqqa, which borders Turkey. One of the groups, the Raqqa Revolutionaries, has about 750 fighters in total, according to a source close to Islamist forces who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Another group, the God's Victory Brigade, said in a statement on Facebook that all of its leaders and fighters had pledged loyalty to Nusra Front.

"God's Victory Brigade, which is comprise of 15 battalions, had pledged its allegiance to the Nusra Front, giving complete submission (to it) in times of hardship and of ease," it said.

A video uploaded by activists from Raqqa on Friday showed a massive convoy of fighters on cars and trucks with artillery and machine guns as they waved black flags. The video's title said it showed a newly unified force of Nusra fighters and other rebel battalions who had recently pledged loyalty.

Western forces have been wary of giving further support or weapons to opposition forces who are not only plagued by internal divisions, but the rising influence of al Qaeda groups.

Sporadic clashes between harder-line Islamists and more moderate rebels are increasingly frequent and activists fear that is weakening the two-and-a-half-year revolt against President Bashar al-Assad. The uprising began as peaceful protests against four decades of Assad family rule but has degenerated into a war that has killed more than 100,000.

While some tensions stem from contrasting ideological outlooks, most rebel-on-rebel fighting is more about control of territory and the spoils of war.

Some activists said the new Islamist loyalty pledges were timed to combat increasing hostility from rival rebel groups, including the Supreme Military Council, the armed wing of the opposition's Western-backed umbrella leadership abroad.

Many Syrian rebels are attracted to radical units because they are generally more effective than the moderate forces that have Western backing but receive only halting military aid.

Islamists have steady, private sources of funding and incorporate experienced militants, many of them from abroad, who have fought U.S. forces in Iraq or Afghanistan
http://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-syria-rebels-pledge-loyalty-qaeda-groups-activists-121713412.html
 
but entire units have joined the small but powerful al Qaeda-linked groups - the Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - in recent days, according to the sources inside Syria.

"This is a sign the radical groups are still growing in power. This region could fall to the jihadists," said an activist in the eastern town of Raqqa, who asked not to be identified. "We may see this become a trend
most effective fighting force in Syria now (of the rebel factions)

video uploaded by activists from Raqqa on Friday showed a massive convoy of fighters on cars and trucks with artillery and machine guns as they waved black flags
black flag is an "AQ Affiliate" - one of the many there.

Western forces have been wary of giving further support or weapons to opposition forces who are not only plagued by internal divisions, but the rising influence of al Qaeda groups
stop arming rthe rebels, they are becoming increasingly jihadists. Foreign fighters, just bad guys
 
How can this be?

Isn't Assad the problem in Syria?
not at all. Despite the crap Obama/Kerry try to sell.

Assad for all his problems still is a secular country (Syria). If Assad falls there is a very good chance we'll create another Iraq - a failed state wracked by sectarian bombings, and able to export ISIL. the Levant, and AQIR. ( the old Sunni Al - Queada groups in Iraq now in Syria).

Which really coukld lead to a regional war -this isn't so much a civil war but a mini-regional skirmish by the players.

As well as the Nusra front -native to Syria -increasing in power

Assad is the "devil you know", as opposed to the Satan you don't
 
Are you saying that Obama and Kerry are lying?
saying they are stupid, childlike adherence to "assad must go" mantra.

They seemed to have backed off the rhetoric, but the CIA was still arming the rebels thru Jordan last I looked.

Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/w...expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

With help from the C.I.A., Arab governments and Turkey have sharply increased their military aid to Syria’s opposition fighters in recent months, expanding a secret airlift of arms and equipment for the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, according to air traffic data, interviews with officials in several countries and the accounts of rebel commanders..............
 
The jihadists have always been affiliated with AQ. This is not anything new. The entire purpose of the AQ is jihad in any form or any people it can sufficiently indoctrinate. They are very similar to American christian missionaries. INDOCTRINATE, INDOCTRINATE, INDOCTRINATE. When proselytism becomes rejected worldwide we won't be having these stupid religious wars and interfaith blood bathing. goD bless the atheists!!!!!! They have the only true and good religion!!!!!!

Petula
 
The jihadists have always been affiliated with AQ. This is not anything new. The entire purpose of the AQ is jihad in any form or any people it can sufficiently indoctrinate. They are very similar to American christian missionaries. INDOCTRINATE, INDOCTRINATE, INDOCTRINATE. When proselytism becomes rejected worldwide we won't be having these stupid religious wars and interfaith blood bathing. goD bless the atheists!!!!!! They have the only true and good religion!!!!!!

Petula
the title OP is a bit misleading, yes - it was meant to show the increasing power of the jihadists vs. the so called moderates (like the Free Syrian Army).
What is happening is the jihadist are becoming the preeminent force among the Sunnis; even though the moderates still out number them
this among other reasons :

Many Syrian rebels are attracted to radical units because they are generally more effective than the moderate forces that have Western backing but receive only halting military aid.

Islamists have steady, private sources of funding and incorporate experienced militants, many of them from abroad, who have fought U.S. forces in Iraq or Afghanistan
 
It is also widely determined that the jihadists et al represent only a small minority in the Syrian rebellion forces. And that they are fighting the other rebellion forces. How do you square that up with any forecast of AQ domination or any chance of it? Sunni and Shiite simply hate each other. I don't believe any claims of any widespread co-mingling of them.

Petula
 
It is also widely determined that the jihadists et al represent only a small minority in the Syrian rebellion forces. And that they are fighting the other rebellion forces. How do you square that up with any forecast of AQ domination or any chance of it? Sunni and Shiite simply hate each other. I don't believe any claims of any widespread co-mingling of them.

Petula
you got the facts correct. The Rebels are the Sunnis (as commonly expressed) . they are made up of foreign fighters (Libya/Tunisia/Iraq -more).

They also have the al-Nusra Front - native to Syria - and assorted Brigades. And the secular Free Syrian Army (FSA)

The reson the jihadists (actually called Islamists) are the mpost powerful fighting force is their unity of purpose (Islamic - not secular),
as well as the financial support (Iran -international) training (Iran).

They are not as small as you think:

Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists, says IHS Jane's report
Nearly half the rebel fighters in Syria are now aligned to jihadist or hardline Islamist groups according to a new analysis of factions in the country's civil war.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...hardline-Islamists-says-IHS-Janes-report.html
Opposition forces battling Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria now number around 100,000 fighters, but after more than two years of fighting they are fragmented into as many as 1,000 bands.

The new study by IHS Jane's, a defence consultancy, estimates there are around 10,000 jihadists - who would include foreign fighters - fighting for powerful factions linked to al-Qaeda..

Another 30,000 to 35,000 are hardline Islamists who share much of the outlook of the jihadists, but are focused purely on the Syrian war rather than a wider international struggle.

There are also at least a further 30,000 moderates belonging to groups that have an Islamic character, meaning only a small minority of the rebels are linked to secular or purely nationalist groups
 
when you arm the correct rebels you are fighting AQ you lying shit filled wipes.


Why are you pretending we are harming the wrong ones?


PROVE it with facts not moistened ass wipes designed to clog up the system
 
the title OP is a bit misleading, yes - it was meant to show the increasing power of the jihadists vs. the so called moderates (like the Free Syrian Army).
What is happening is the jihadist are becoming the preeminent force among the Sunnis; even though the moderates still out number them
this among other reasons :
so this conventional wisdom might also be wrong.

The internicene war among the rebels is changing the picture daily
 
Now where do they say we are arming the wrong rebels?



Dear fool ,


if you want to fight AQ then do you just let them take over this fight or do you arm the rebels who are NOT with them?
 
Now where do they say we are arming the wrong rebels?
Dear fool ,
if you want to fight AQ then do you just let them take over this fight or do you arm the rebels who are NOT with them?
it's impossible to seperate them.
The Big Idea - even Kerry accepts this.

Even a few months ago -prior to the rise of the Islamists the FSA was saying "we are not allied with Al_Nusra, but they fight besides us on the battlefield"

weapons change hands easily on a battlefield (small arms, mobile platforms)
 
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