JESUS IS NOT GOD DEBATE

PostmodernProphet said:
how many then, 239?....341?....
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Too many to fit in the ark. That's how many.LOL



you've told me many things that the Bible does not state....
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Are you pretending to be this stupid or are you a true idiot? I posted the verse that stated it was a GLOBAL flood, even though YOU stated it was regional. Which means you are saying the Bible is in error. :)


got any evidence showing a single celled organism evolving into a multicelled organism?.....if you think they evolved into something as complex as a human being, demonstrating something as simple as that little step should be easy for science to duplicate.....
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If it did, it would take millions of years of evolution. Not something you can simulate in a lab. Try turning coal to diamonds which is less complicated. Your arguments are laughable! There is evidence of evolution and NO evidence that animals and humans just appeared out of thin air!


so instead of evolution you believe its due to interacial marriage?......
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I believe in evolution and believe the bible is discussing interracial breeding.




and you have proof of this?.....tell me this, did Genesis 3 happen the day after Genesis 2 or was it a few weeks.....
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Proof has been presented on a separate thread made especially for you.lol



actually yes....I do no share your belief in biblical literalism.....
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I don't believe everything is literal but when giving ages, that's literal! Maybe you can explain what the metaphoric ages given mean? ROTFLOL!



if none of us share the DNA of those other women what difference does it make to us that they all drowned?.....
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Your an imbecile. I pretty much just destroyed your argument. The same source you used STATES that this was not the first woman created.


omigorsh, you have the original script?.....that must be worth a fortune....
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It's probably in a Museum somewhere. It probably is worth a fortune. And it is of Sumerian origin, before the Sumerians even came in contact with semitic people. :)

are you familiar with the timing of the flood story being inserted into the Gilgamesh lore?......
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They have similarities but they are DIFFERENT! One is more believable then the heavily exaggerated biblical account. Guess which one is true? lol And according to the epic? There were multiple gods involved. It was a pagan myth.


they weren't.....there were relating the legends dealing with one of their ancestors....named Noah.....
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Prove it. According to ancient scripts, that Akkadians adopted the story from the Sumerians and made the god of the Sumerians Enki, into EA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki


gosh, just like the Ten Commandments!......lol....
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Very similar to the commandments and the mosaic laws. This is just one of the codes that existed on tablets, just like the ten commandments.lol

sorry, no Roman Empire, no Assyrian Empire, no Bablyonian Empire....you seem to have missed when you tried to make me look stupid....
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Anyone following this debate has no doubt of your stupidity.lol Is there a jewish empire that I am unaware of?



did you remind him he owed you an explanation?....I suppose you could accept what he said in the book of Jeremiah as an explanation of why he let them go into captivity.....
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No I am asking YOU not him for an explanation! Still waiting! LOL Are you saying those roman era jews and Nazi Germany jews deserved it? Then Hitler should be exonerated! It was the god of the jews casting judgement on the jews!!! Hitler was just his vessel!!!



this one isn't enough of an embarrassment for you?....
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Your too stupid to realize you have been bested and continue to get beaten up.lol You should be embarrassed!


no, so far you've posted a lot of bullshit in which your opinion of scripture contradicts what Christianity has been teaching for 2000 years.....apparently you think you're better at it......
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Really? I proved Jesus had separate wills, that YOU denied. I proved that the Bible states it was a global flood, that YOU said was regional. I proved that the Bible states Jesus did not raise himself. Something YOU claimed. I've defeated you at every turn. Your just too stupid too admit defeat.
 
wiseones2cents said:
Too many to fit in the ark. That's how many.LOL
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so you can choose an arbitrary number which is "too many" but I can't choose an arbitrary number which is not....

Are you pretending to be this stupid or are you a true idiot? I posted the verse that stated it was a GLOBAL flood, even though YOU stated it was regional. Which means you are saying the Bible is in error. :)
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you chose to translate the text as "global"......I chose to translate it in a way that did not require them to take into account parts of the world that no human had never seen.....the fact that I see error does not mean its in the text of the Bible......I see it in your argument....

If it did, it would take millions of years of evolution. Not something you can simulate in a lab.
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so we agree, at least, that the theory all multicelled organisms evolved from single celled organisms is not testable under the scientific method.....if you can't make it past the simple first step how can you claim science "proves" humans evolved from single celled organisms....

I believe in evolution and believe the bible is discussing interracial breeding.
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but your answer was given in response to the question that even those who believe humans evolve would have to accept the fact of a first man and a first woman.....would you now like to rephrase your answer to something other than interracial breeding?.....


Proof has been presented on a separate thread made especially for you.lol
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then I won't bother to discredit your "proof" twice...

I don't believe everything is literal but when giving ages, that's literal! Maybe you can explain what the metaphoric ages given mean?
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but I don't believe its literal.....I'm just pointing out your error in demanding literalism in one place but not another.....the fact remains, if there is only a thousand years between Adam and Noah, then there couldn't possibly have been very many people.....even if they bred like rabbits there couldn't have been more than 2-3000.....

Your an imbecile. I pretty much just destroyed your argument. The same source you used STATES that this was not the first woman created.
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I wasn't arguing that Noah's wife was the first woman created.....


It's probably in a Museum somewhere. It probably is worth a fortune. And it is of Sumerian origin, before the Sumerians even came in contact with semitic people. :)
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and if its a copy of a previous tablet, is it a fraud?....

They have similarities but they are DIFFERENT! One is more believable then the heavily exaggerated biblical account. Guess which one is true? lol And according to the epic? There were multiple gods involved. It was a pagan myth.
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the original tablets of Gilgamesh did not include the flood stories....

Prove it.
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its only logical.....if everyone except Noah's family drowned, everyone who came after descended from Noah....
Very similar to the commandments and the mosaic laws.
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except for prohibiting murder and theft, they have nothing in common....


Is there a jewish empire that I am unaware of?
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there is a Jewish nation....where is the Roman nation or the Assyrian nation?....
No I am asking YOU not him for an explanation! Still waiting! LOL Are you saying those roman era jews and Nazi Germany jews deserved it? Then Hitler should be exonerated! It was the god of the jews casting judgement on the jews!!! Hitler was just his vessel!!!
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it served his purpose.....there is now the nation of Israel, which would not have happened if Hitler had not set up the concentration camps.....

Really? I proved Jesus had separate wills, that YOU denied. I proved that the Bible states it was a global flood, that YOU said was regional. I proved that the Bible states Jesus did not raise himself. Something YOU claimed. I've defeated you at every turn. Your just too stupid too admit defeat.
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lol...you LOST all those arguments, fool....
 
XLVIII DOMINATORS said:
Who was present at Nicea that Constantine had put to death? Who that was present did he have exiled? Better yet, who was present and what view(s)did each hold?
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I don't know who specifically was there, I do know that upon trying to discuss the divinity of Jesus, anyone who disagreed was exiled.
 
All anyone knows about this story is what is written in the Bible; and relying on the Bible for information about God is a classic "begging the question" fallacy!
 
Sun Devil said:
With respect to the Noah's Ark debate, well scientist say it was physically impossible to fit tens of millions of species who require different tempartures to live in an Ark.

See:http://www.rte.ie/news/special-reports/2008/0515/103336-noahsark/
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why would you need tens of millions of species.....could God have gotten by with 237 species and caused the rest to evolve afterwards?.....after all, there is little need to have all 37k species of beetles on the ark......
 
Dantès said:
All anyone knows about this story is what is written in the Bible; and relying on the Bible for information about God is a classic "begging the question" fallacy!
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sure.....because if you want to know something about someone, the last place you would look is what he told you about himself....
 
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