It's about teaching the children... to be good little pinhead protesters!

Dune said:
Is this a real thread? It seems more like a joke. The ones who yell the loudest about the constitution, etc. now object to children being involved in the democratic process? WTF is wrong with you people?

Oh yeah, I forgot, the GOP plan is to dumb down the children so they don't even know that rights they used to have are being violated. Duh.
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Excellent! :good4u:
 
Ice Dancer said:
Hello...links provided :D
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I checked out the "http://townhall.com/tipsheet/elisabethmeinecke/2011/02/16/wisconsin_teachers_take_students_to_protest_instead_of_class" link. The author writes, "But the unions, as usual, aren't prepared to give up without a fight, and now the teachers' union is recruiting their students' help, tantalizing them with a day out of class to go protest and not informing them of what they're protesting."

Not informing them? They're chanting "Union Busting". That is precisely what they're protesting.

They're high school students. If they don't know what they're protesting, aren't able to understand what removing the right to negotiate for wages means, then the Wisconsin school system has a much bigger problem than students protesting!
 
Yurt said:
hi legion :)

your post is a joke. duh
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There's also this:

COLUMBUS, Ohio — A fetus has been scheduled as a legislative witness in Ohio on a unique bill that proposes outlawing abortions after the first heartbeat can be medically detected.

Faith2Action, the anti-abortion group that has targeted Ohio to pilot the measure, called the in-utero witness the youngest to ever come before the House Health Committee at 9 weeks old.

Faith2Action president Janet Folger Porter said the intent is to show lawmakers who will be affected by the bill, which abortion rights groups oppose. Ohio Right to Life has not endorsed the measure.

An aide to committee Chairman Lynn Wachtmann said a pregnant woman will be brought before the committee and an ultrasound image of her uterus will be projected onto a screen. The heartbeat of the fetus will be visible in color.
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How fucked is that?



http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...to-testify-on-ohio-abortion-bill-1093746.html
 
Damocles said:
That isn't what happened, according to what I heard on CNN. I'll see if I can find a link. They brought kids from the classrooms. If they did this with my kid I'd be requesting a teacherectomy.
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In my district the parents have the right to opt out their kid from any activity, trip, etc. the district offers. You can't make something like this mandatory, at least not here.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Let me just go ahead and call bullshit on this one. I have seen an interview with the person that shot the video, Ann Althouse.

The video was shot Monday of this week. According to Althouse (who hates the protesters, by the way), Monday was not a school day. It was not a field trip. The children were not brought from classrooms.
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So, the only thing that troubles you is that there was no school so they didn't take a field trip? Were they their own kids (just fine) or students (not fine)?
 
Dixie said:
You know what, I am getting really tired of "PROVE IT" from liberals. Your dialogue follows the exact same pattern, you spew liberal propaganda and rhetoric until someone challenges you, then you switch to personal attacks, and whenever credible and accurate info is presented, you holler "PROVE IT!" ...or "LINK?" When the proof is presented, you either run away, ignore it and try to change the subject, revert to the personal attacks again, or you just start over posting liberal propaganda and rhetoric! We never get anywhere with "PROVE IT!" So, why should any of us continue to do it?

No, I think I have a better idea... Come November of 2012, we're all going to the polls to vote, and we will send the liberals home for good, after which, we can dismantle the Department of Education completely, and return to state-run schools, like it used to be. We don't need to have dialogue with you people, we don't need to "PROVE" any damn thing!
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By Nov/12 the school system problem will pale compared to the coming New World Order and the Anunnaki. :whoa:
 
christiefan915 said:
In my district the parents have the right to opt out their kid from any activity, trip, etc. the district offers. You can't make something like this mandatory, at least not here.
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It makes more sense that way. IMO, it is not the job of teachers to teach political ideation at all, and trips like this, whether during a school day or not, are not something teachers should be taking students to. It just isn't their place.
 
Damn Yankee said:
FDR warned against this for public employees. Aren't you concerned about the potential for cronyism?
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I sure am. When John Kasich tells teachers and firemen and policemen that they have to take a paycut and give up their rights cause they are contributing to the downturn in the economy (pretty fucking ballsy considering he was on the board at Lehmans when they crashed and started this recession) and then turns around and gives a large raise to the good ole boys/gals he hired for his administration and justifies those large pay raises cause he needs to attract "talent". That stinks to high heaven of cronyism and political patrognage. I'm very much concerned about that.

I mean WTF, are you trying to tell me that some hack politician or administrator has more talent then some guy who can run into a burning building and save your ass and get you both out alive? I mean for real? Seriously?
 
Damocles said:
So, the only thing that troubles you is that there was no school so they didn't take a field trip? Were they their own kids (just fine) or students (not fine)?
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The only thing that troubles me is the never ending stream of bullshit. Go dig up that fucking link you mentioned.
 
cawacko said:
Teachers leaning left politically is bullshit? I don't know really how to respond. I mean are there teachers that are conservative? Sure. But to really argue that teachers as a whole don't have a leftward bent just seems way out of left field to me.
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How many teachers do you personally know? Most teachers work in urban communities (cause like that's where the people are) which tend to be more liberal then rural ones and teachers are, in general, a representative slice of their community. There sure as hell weren't any "liberal" teachers in the rural school I went to. The closest I had was a retired nun. Not exactly setting the liberal bar very high there.
 
Dixie said:
I am not being the least bit hypocritical! I don't care if they were attending a Tea Party Rally... Teachers shouldn't be teaching Political Activism 101 to my kids! When you bring the kids in to do your protesting, that's when you Libtards lose me! Go out there and carry signs and yell and scream all you like! Chant to your heart's content, and I will back your right to do so until the day I die... but leave our kids out of it!
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Dixie I see nothing here to indicate that this is a systematic education class teaching these kids political protest. I see some kids supporting their parents.
 
Damocles said:
That isn't what happened, according to what I heard on CNN. I'll see if I can find a link. They brought kids from the classrooms. If they did this with my kid I'd be requesting a teacherectomy.
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Even it that was the case, and I question that, a teacher would still need a parents authorization to take their children on such a field trip Damo.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Let me just go ahead and call bullshit on this one. I have seen an interview with the person that shot the video, Ann Althouse.

The video was shot Monday of this week. According to Althouse (who hates the protesters, by the way), Monday was not a school day. It was not a field trip. The children were not brought from classrooms.
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and even if they had been they would have been required to have the parents permission to take them there.
 
Damocles said:
It makes more sense that way. IMO, it is not the job of teachers to teach political ideation at all, and trips like this, whether during a school day or not, are not something teachers should be taking students to. It just isn't their place.
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unless parents give them permission to in which case it is. I'd drop this one Damo, as I've said for the third time now. In school, after school or day off from school a teacher would need a parents written authorization to take students on such a field trip in which case it would be their place but you have not provided any evidence that this was the case.
 
I tried googling this for a bit, and all I could really find was coverage on the right-wing sites, and they all seemed to parrot the initial claim that these kids were taken out of class to go here & protest.

I think someone just made it up, and everyone else just repeated it. Like Dixie basically said - proof? We don't need no stinkin' proof....
 
Onceler said:
I tried googling this for a bit, and all I could really find was coverage on the right-wing sites, and they all seemed to parrot the initial claim that these kids were taken out of class to go here & protest.

I think someone just made it up, and everyone else just repeated it. Like Dixie basically said - proof? We don't need no stinkin' proof....
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It's completely made up. The person shooting the video was interviewed on FOX and said the following:

"The people down in the rotunda -- I think they are teachers based upon their shirts and what they said to me."

"Up one level you see a group of children - they look like about 20 children. And I don't know if it is a teacher or a parent who has them there. But it was an off day for school even though it was a Monday"

"They weren't on a field trip."
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From that, we get claims that teachers took their students out of class to go make anti-Walker chants at the capitol. It's pretty much a case study in how the right-wing bullshit machine works.
 
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