It is not a Mosque they are building in Manhattan

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Yeah, a building that is open to the public is a great place from which to run a secret operation.

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There is plenty out there to suggest the symbolism and ideology behind this move is intentional and more than provocative, Solitary. They laugh as you and your president fight for their right to laugh in the face of Americans and spit on all the 9/11 dead, survivors and families.

They count on you and sit back and chuckle for hours on end while you fight for their victory.



Paladino: It’s about stopping Muslim conquest
Thursday, July 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM by Jimmy Vielkind in 2010 Governor Election, 2010 Republican Primary, Carl Paladino
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Carl Paladino, the Buffalo developer hoping to win a Republican gubernatorial primary, is doubling down his opposition to a mosque in Lower Manhattan, saying it’s an “affront to the American people” and “it’s about the Islamists wanting to illustrate that they have conquered America by taking down the World Trade Center.”

In an interview last night with NY1 (partially obscured by Paladino’s statement that he will not run for governor on just a third-party line) and speaking this morning with Susan Arbetter on The Capitol Pressroom, Paladino equated those building or using the proposed Cordoba Mosque with Muslim terrorists who attacked the United States on September 11 and are waging war on American troops abroad.

“The governor doesn’t really have a clue what this issue is about,” Paladino told Arbetter. “It’s not about religion, it’s not about the First Amendment. It’s about ideology. It’s about the Islamists wanting to illustrate that they have conquered America by taking down the World Trade Center. It’s a claim of triumph.”

http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/...-religion-its-about-stopping-muslim-conquest/


"On the question of the mosque [proposed to be constructed at Ground Zero] itself, however, I don’t think any treatment of the topic can be complete without reference to the meaning behind the name of the “initiative” that intends to establish it – the Cordoba Initiative – or to the plan to name the mosque Cordoba House. My first question on hearing this a couple of weeks ago was whether Americans are completely ignorant of history.




Cordoba was, of course, the seat of the caliphate established in what is now modern Spain after the Islamic invasion from North Africa in the 8th century A.D. The medieval occupation of Spain – “al-Andalus” – is considered by Islamic theorists to have been an inevitable step in the manifest destiny of Islam, and its eventual reversal through the lengthy European “Reconquista” a tragic but temporary triumph of the infidels. The great mosque at Cordoba was built on the foundation of a Christian cathedral, and when Europeans retook Cordoba in the 13th century they turned the magnificent mosque back into a cathedral.

There is no question that the opulence and beauty of the mosque were the products of Muslim builders and artists. But there is also no question that the mosque at Cordoba represents a history of conquest and reconquest that, from the perspective of Islamists, is at an unfinished stage as of today. The caliphate of Cordoba was the geographic high point of Umayyad Muslim rule – that is, of the original caliphate that succeeded Mohammed – on European territory.

http://www.urbanelephants.com/index.php/component/content/article/64/2700.html
 
Do we really want to limit American freedom because we are afraid it might encourage some radical Muslums to kill more of us?
 
Do we really want to limit American freedom because we are afraid it might encourage some radical Muslums to kill more of us?

This one building project will have no impact on our overall religious freedom policy. Only an idiot would make that argument. I guess that's you.
 
LMAO!!

Are you claiming that they will be training and planning a jihad in a community center that is open to the public?

It wouldn't be the first time that tactic was used, moron. In Afghanistan and Iraq, the Taliban and alQaeda routinely use mosques to protect munitions, weapons, and jihadists.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister and ex-mayor of Istanbul, said; "The mosques are our barracks, the minarets our bayonets, the domes our helmets, and the believers our soldiers."
 
There is plenty out there to suggest the symbolism and ideology behind this move is intentional and more than provocative, Solitary. They laugh as you and your president fight for their right to laugh in the face of Americans and spit on all the 9/11 dead, survivors and families.



http://www.urbanelephants.com/index.php/component/content/article/64/2700.html

They can count on me to fight to make sure the US Constitution is not tossed aside based on paranoia.

I'm happy to do that.
 
It wouldn't be the first time that tactic was used, moron. In Afghanistan and Iraq, the Taliban and alQaeda routinely use mosques to protect munitions, weapons, and jihadists.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister and ex-mayor of Istanbul, said; "The mosques are our barracks, the minarets our bayonets, the domes our helmets, and the believers our soldiers."

And the access by US soldiers is severly limited.

Are you really equating a community center in Manhattan with a mosque in a nation under sharia rule??

lol


Even if (and thats a big 'if') they were going to plan jihads, do you think they would think that the best place would be this community center?

And do you really think that not allowing them to build it would stop their plans for a jihad?
 
What? They have ben using the old building for years. These plans have been in the works for years. This is a local matter that has little or nothing to do with the 9/11 attack.

Doesn't have anything to do with 9/11...are you fricking nuts? They have attemtped to sell it to the public as a peace offering for 9/11. The paln is to dedicate it on 9/11!

A 13 story mosque/community center is not quite the lil' run down coat factory.
 
Wrong. Slippery slope argument, a known logical fallacy. Look it up, dumbass.

The slippery slope argument is typically a logical fallacy. But in some circumstances it is absolutely accurate.

The only way this community center can be shut down is by ignoring the US Constitution by claiming they present a threat. No actual documentation that the people involved in this project present a threat. So the precedent will be there for future use.
 
Doesn't have anything to do with 9/11...are you fricking nuts? They have attemtped to sell it to the public as a peace offering for 9/11. The paln is to dedicate it on 9/11!

A 13 story mosque/community center is not quite the lil' run down coat factory.

The "lil' run down coat factory" has been being used as a community center for how long???
 
The slippery slope argument is typically a logical fallacy. But in some circumstances it is absolutely accurate.

The only way this community center can be shut down is by ignoring the US Constitution by claiming they present a threat. No actual documentation that the people involved in this project present a threat. So the precedent will be there for future use.

this time it's a fallacy. Obviously. Nobody's talking about the other many mosques throughout new york.
 
The "lil' run down coat factory" has been being used as a community center for how long???

That's right a community center. NOT a 13 story mosque whose supposed purpose is to bring peace and reconciliation and is having the exact opposite effect. A mosque 2 blocks from ground zero that borrows its name from another Muslim conquest and is funded by no one knows who and led by an imam with a dubious character...yeah.

So what was that "it has nothing to do with 9/11"?
 
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