Islam hates us?

The left would actually be amusing on this issue if it weren't such a serious problem. It's like if you refuse to utter certain phrases reality will automatically conform to what you think it ought to be.

But saying Islam is a religion of peace doesn't neccessarily make it so.

The left, and again, much of the national security apparatus, is hell-bent on searching for 'root causes' for Islamic terrorism that will exempt Islam from the equation. Unbelievably, any unbiased observer can figure it out using Google during their lunch break.

Google 'political Islam' and you'll find the Muslim Brotherhood and from there it's pretty obvious the root cause is an ideology.

It even has a name: radical Islam.
Yes I will look more deeply into it, good friend. for sure it's salafi jihad -salafi being a movement ( school) that is anti-modernist,
Basically the 3 centuries after the Prophet are to be emulated.

It's been attached to the modern jihadist movement however..anyways google that up too, and I think we both agree fundamentalist Islam
as practiced as political Islam is where this all comes from..

Religion is the primary driving motivation, although individuals may have secondary motives also.
 
Yes I will look more deeply into it, good friend. for sure it's salafi jihad -salafi being a movement ( school) that is anti-modernist,
Basically the 3 centuries after the Prophet are to be emulated.

It's been attached to the modern jihadist movement however..anyways google that up too, and I think we both agree fundamentalist Islam
as practiced as political Islam is where this all comes from..

Religion is the primary driving motivation, although individuals may have secondary motives also.

The last sentence summarized it in a nutshell and millions of Common Joe's across the country have the same [correct] understanding of it. Of course, you can get deeper into the various schools of thought, their sources and etc, but it doesn't change anything.

It's just another way the country's leadership is out of step with a large swath of the electorate; and it's yet another facet Trump has tapped into. When Trump says 'Islam hates us' he's more politically incorrect than wrong, millions of people know it, they're like 'finally, somebody said it' and their going to be attracted to Trump.

What the democrats needs to be wary of is this has the potential to cross party lines. No doubt there are Hispanics, blacks, women who are going to hear Trump say that and say 'duh, ya think?' If that starts to happen it could be trouble for democrats.

But as far as radical Islamism goes, it's not going to change anything. Their reasons for hating us are found in their religious texts and not Trumps campaign rhetoric.
 
There aren't any lol. But to speak ill of Islam is blasphemy.

Yes, that's the right word.

Islam is the shits. According to their own Islamic Hadiths, the Psycho MohahahahahaMAD PERSONALLY beheaded ~ 20 of his prisoners because they rejected his concocted Islam. And the Koran concocted by the PSYCHO MohahahahaMAD sets himself as the model with its PRIME DIRECTIVE being the creation of the world into a caliphate of Islam, preferably by word, by SWORD (caps mine) if necessary.

The only Muslimes who may be acceptable are those who are ignorant of the f-ed up Koran.
 
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Yes. I dispute that concept and here is why.

There is no group more marginalized than the Jews. They live in a part of the world where they are reviled and under constant threat, called the worst names imaginable. Anti semitism in Europe is on the rise. Yet I don't see stories of "radicalized Jews". Do you?

You are merely making excuses for the muslimes. I understand why.

1) if you are able to convince yourself that it is because of something we are doing you can absolve the muslimes of responsibility
2) blaming Trumps mean words keep you from digging deeper into the real reason for their radicalization which is their so called religion.
3) for you it is easier to take those of us who you think "don't get it" than facing up to the real threat that is islum.

You see no matter what you call me and USF, you have no worries of us beheading you. But you know deep down in places you don't want to talk about that the threat of islum is real it is just too scary for you to face. So it is simpler for you to blame people like me and USF who are no threat to you

The threat is from the right, not patriotic American citizens who's religion happens to be Islam.
 
Yes I hate islam

It is not a religion. It is a political ideology hell bent on world conquest. That you don't believe it is a threat to us all. In fact you are probably a bigger threat than muslimes. Keep your head in the sand it will be easier for them to cut it off.

Yes I hate rightists. It is not a legitimate political belief. It is a violent ideology that wishes to genocide all people who aren't white and Christian. It is bent on world conquest and wishes to undermine and destroy America and patriotic Americans.
 
Yes I hate rightists. It is not a legitimate political belief. It is a violent ideology that wishes to genocide all people who aren't white and Christian. It is bent on world conquest and wishes to undermine and destroy America and patriotic Americans.

You are not a patriotic America. You should change your name to communist/Islamist sympathizer.
 
Of course. You couldn't find it, because I never said or implied that YOU said it.

I guess we're done here. It's been really fun, USF.

Your comment had nothing to do with the post you were responding to; but then you have been busy moving the goal posts and probably just forgot which field you were playing on. :good4u:

I accept your surrender and also your admission of failure. :D
 
Your comment had nothing to do with the post you were responding to; but then you have been busy moving the goal posts and probably just forgot which field you were playing on. :good4u:

I accept your surrender and also your admission of failure. :D

I haven't moved a single goalpost. My initial argument was that those who are marginalized can be more susceptible to radicalization. That is still my point.

I've invited you quite a few times to counter that established psychological principle, but you haven't even tried. I don't think you're capable of trying, quite frankly.
 
I haven't moved a single goalpost. My initial argument was that those who are marginalized can be more susceptible to radicalization. That is still my point.

I've invited you quite a few times to counter that established psychological principle, but you haven't even tried. I don't think you're capable of trying, quite frankly.

Yes you did try to move them, right after I used your "initial argument" to scare the hell out of you and you realized that you desperately needed to derail the discussion. :D

And now you've decided to become a liar also.
...I guess we're done here...
 
Yes you did try to move them, right after I used your "initial argument" to scare the hell out of you and you realized that you desperately needed to derail the discussion. :D

And now you've decided to become a liar also.

Really? I don't remember being scared at all. And I don't remember you doing anything except for avoiding my very simple question.

And I'm hardly a "liar." I said I guess we're done - but you kept going, so I'm responding.

You don't seem to understand the language very well.
 
Really? I don't remember being scared at all. And I don't remember you doing anything except for avoiding my very simple question.

And I'm hardly a "liar." I said I guess we're done - but you kept going, so I'm responding.

You don't seem to understand the language very well.

She is probably drunk again.
 
Trump is being his usual bombastic self and making outlandish claims. I believe that most Muslims have a strong dislike or hate of America. But not all.

For a potential President to make such a claim and slam an entire religion (1.6 billion people) is not a sign of someone who can lead the country, let alone represent us to the world.
 
Really? I don't remember being scared at all. And I don't remember you doing anything except for avoiding my very simple question.

And I'm hardly a "liar." I said I guess we're done - but you kept going, so I'm responding.

You don't seem to understand the language very well.

But you were scared and that's why you kept trying to change the subject to one you felt more comfortable about.
The chronology of the posts show your duplicity. :D

So when you were "guessing", you really weren't sure; just like your comments on "marginalization and radicalization". :)

I understand very well; but it's just that I don't speak liberal derailment speech. :chesh:
 
But you were scared and that's why you kept trying to change the subject to one you felt more comfortable about.
The chronology of the posts show your duplicity. :D

So when you were "guessing", you really weren't sure; just like your comments on "marginalization and radicalization". :)

I understand very well; but it's just that I don't speak liberal derailment speech. :chesh:

No, I wasn't "guessing." And it's an established psychological principle that marginalization can make an individual or group more susceptible to radicalization.

Again - is that a concept that you dispute? If you do, what is your reasoning and proof for that?

Are you afraid to answer that question? You seem to be the one that's scared here. I don't think you're capable of actually discussing it.
 
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