Islam hates us?

[USFREEDOM911]

Nope. Unfortunately, you ran from my question. Your scenario was the "gotcha" - not mine.

You tried to simplify an established psychological concept to fit your ideology. Are there radical groups actively trying to recruit Trump supporters who feel marginalized? How else do Trump supporters feel marginalized...are there aspects of poverty and socialization that are involved? What other motivation was there for a Trump supporter to explode a bomb and commit violence? And so on.

Again: do you disagree w/ the established psychological premise that marginalization is connected to radicalization? If you don't agree, why not - and can you back that up with any other established psychological principles?

C'mon, USF. Show me that you have a glimmer of intelligence, and try to discuss this topic with genuine thought, instead of your usual puerile & lame "gotcha" attempts.

And you still continue to run. LOL

Are you trying to say that "poverty and socialization" are the only reasons that people might feel "marginalization" and thereby become "radicalized"?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I should add, your inane premise assumes that I "blame" Trump for terrorist attacks. I don't.

But I do believe that continuing to foster an "us vs. them" mentality, and stoking hate for Muslims, and creating isolation for an entire religion, DOES make those on the fringes of that group more susceptible to radicalization.

And again - this is established psychological fact.

So, I've answered your question. Answer mine.

By now referring to a "us vs them mentality" are you referring to the liberals desire to make it appear that the Right needs to be ignored and or vilified?

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

And you still continue to run. LOL

Are you trying to say that "poverty and socialization" are the only reasons that people might feel "marginalization" and thereby become "radicalized"?

It's kinda funny that you concluded the bolded section from what I wrote.

You didn't even try; that's disappointing. Though even if you tried, you don't have the intellectual capacity to get anywhere close.

Like I said - I answered your question. You are unable to answer mine, because you can't go against established psychological principle. I get it, but it makes this all no less embarrassing for you.

Fun chat. You can return to your regularly scheduled programming of posting inane analogies & lame potshots without substance.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

It's kinda funny that you concluded the bolded section from what I wrote.

You didn't even try; that's disappointing. Though even if you tried, you don't have the intellectual capacity to get anywhere close.

Like I said - I answered your question. You are unable to answer mine, because you can't go against established psychological principle. I get it, but it makes this all no less embarrassing for you.

Fun chat. You can return to your regularly scheduled programming of posting inane analogies & lame potshots without substance.

Since you made no other clarification, it's logical to conclude what your intentions were and are.

I really enjoy watching you run around in a circle, with one foot nailed to the floor. LOL

Even after telling you that my example was in line with your comment, you continue to try and make it look like you understand; but unfortunately, you're myopic view interferes with your ability to comprehend.

Now run away again and please don't sprain your arm, trying to pat yourself on the back.

 

[christiefan915]

Hyperventilating aside, it's actually pretty easy to argue Islam hates us [indidels]. Read chapter 9 of the Koran. Muslims are another matter.

Trump has a way of leaving himself an out lol.

That's like saying "Catholicism" (Protestantism, Judaism) hates us.

 

[christiefan915]

I don't agree that he should be elected, but I agree with him on this.

Maybe you haven't read the kooran, but it is antithetical to western culture and values. So yes, islam hates us. Does that mean EVERY muslime hates us? Dunno. But the religion as a whole has a problem with what you believe.

Let's try this thought experiment. What values do adherents of islum share with you? Respect for women? Queers? What exactly?

Too funny, like only western values are important.

 

[RockX]

Screw this guy. Muslims have fought & died for the American military. There are millions of patriotic American Muslims. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world who have nothing to do with radicalism.

This is such irresponsible, hate-stoking BS - and coming from someone who wants to be our President.

I don't think people realize how extraordinarily important it is that this man not be elected.

Muslims need to be taken out and killed, they are a plague on this country. Once we rid our country of them, we need to go from country to country exterminating them.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Since you made no other clarification, it's logical to conclude what your intentions were and are.

I really enjoy watching you run around in a circle, with one foot nailed to the floor. LOL

Even after telling you that my example was in line with your comment, you continue to try and make it look like you understand; but unfortunately, you're myopic view interferes with your ability to comprehend.

Now run away again and please don't sprain your arm, trying to pat yourself on the back.

The bolded is false. "And so on" is clear clarification that those are just some factors, and not the ONLY factors.

Glad to establish that you can't comprehend what you're reading, as well.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

The bolded is false. "And so on" is clear clarification that those are just some factors, and not the ONLY factors.

Glad to establish that you can't comprehend what you're reading, as well.

But you never laid those factors out, in your original rant, except for that to say that "marginalization" is what leads to "radicalization" and then when I brought up liberals and their "marginalization" of Trump supporters.

Are now attempting to change the parameters, once you realized that your boat had a leak??

 

[Darth Omar]

That's like saying "Catholicism" (Protestantism, Judaism) hates us.

To whatever extent Judaism or etc calls for subjugating [or worse] infidels, that constitutes hate by any reasonable definition.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

I should add, your inane premise assumes that I "blame" Trump for terrorist attacks. I don't.

But I do believe that continuing to foster an "us vs. them" mentality, and stoking hate for Muslims, and creating isolation for an entire religion, DOES make those on the fringes of that group more susceptible to radicalization.

And again - this is established psychological fact.

So, I've answered your question. Answer mine.

How do you explain centuries of islamic aggression? Have they always been "marginalized"?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

How do you explain centuries of islamic aggression? Have they always been "marginalized"?

He's fraught with liberal feelings and angst; because at no time did I ask him if he would blame Trump for "terrorists attacks".
But it is amusing to watch him twist and turn on what he THINKS I said.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

But you never laid those factors out, in your original rant, except for that to say that "marginalization" is what leads to "radicalization" and then when I brought up liberals and their "marginalization" of Trump supporters.

Are now attempting to change the parameters, once you realized that your boat had a leak??

Sorry - you said I made "no other clarification." I clearly alluded to other factors.

You're just trying to move the goalposts to save face. But you've already lost, again, in humiliating fashion.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

How do you explain centuries of islamic aggression? Have they always been "marginalized"?

You guys have trouble reading. Marginalization is hardly the ONLY reason for aggressive behavior. Christians have been aggressive for centuries, too. So have other groups.

Marginalization just makes those on the fringes more susceptible to recruitment. It's a very simple, basic & proven concept. Not sure why it's so challenging for you.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

He's fraught with liberal feelings and angst; because at no time did I ask him if he would blame Trump for "terrorists attacks".
But it is amusing to watch him twist and turn on what he THINKS I said.

No - but your analogy relied on that assumption. Are you backing off of that analogy now?

You're not smart enough to have this discussion, USF. I can do this as long as you want.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Sorry - you said I made "no other clarification." I clearly alluded to other factors.

You're just trying to move the goalposts to save face. But you've already lost, again, in humiliating fashion.

Show me your original post where you made the reference.

Never mind, I'll do it for you; because other wise you'll just lie about it, again.

...the premise that marginalization is connected to radicalization...

Are you saying that the above quote was not made by you and please point out where you made any clarification, in the post that began this discussion between "marginalization" and "radicalization".

I'll await your capitulation or at the very least; you attempting to recover your honor, by moving the goal posts again.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

No - but your analogy relied on that assumption. Are you backing off of that analogy now?

You're not smart enough to have this discussion, USF. I can do this as long as you want.

No, it did not allude to it and now you're just lying; in an attempt to save face and appear knowledgeable.

Reread what I asked and then come back and apologize for being myopic and for lacking a great deal of cognitive ability.

I do agree though, that you can and will continue to play stupid and confused.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Nope. Unfortunately, you ran from my question. Your scenario was the "gotcha" - not mine.

You tried to simplify an established psychological concept to fit your ideology. Are there radical groups actively trying to recruit Trump supporters who feel marginalized? How else do Trump supporters feel marginalized...are there aspects of poverty and socialization that are involved? What other motivation was there for a Trump supporter to explode a bomb and commit violence? And so on.

Again: do you disagree w/ the established psychological premise that marginalization is connected to radicalization? If you don't agree, why not - and can you back that up with any other established psychological principles?

C'mon, USF. Show me that you have a glimmer of intelligence, and try to discuss this topic with genuine thought, instead of your usual puerile & lame "gotcha" attempts.

Sorry, Charlie.

You really make this too easy.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Sorry, Charlie.

You really make this too easy.

LOL

You made the original post, which I referred to, at 1:39:

Unfortunately, it doesn't.

We can start at the most basic level: the premise that marginalization is connected to radicalization.

Do you dispute that very basic psychological concept, and if you do, why & what is your proof of that?

Now you want to point to a post that you made at 3:26:

Nope. Unfortunately, you ran from my question. Your scenario was the "gotcha" - not mine.

You tried to simplify an established psychological concept to fit your ideology. Are there radical groups actively trying to recruit Trump supporters who feel marginalized? How else do Trump supporters feel marginalized...are there aspects of poverty and socialization that are involved? What other motivation was there for a Trump supporter to explode a bomb and commit violence? And so on.

Again: do you disagree w/ the established psychological premise that marginalization is connected to radicalization? If you don't agree, why not - and can you back that up with any other established psychological principles?

C'mon, USF. Show me that you have a glimmer of intelligence, and try to discuss this topic with genuine thought, instead of your usual puerile & lame "gotcha" attempts.

Which was 1 hour and 47 minutes later and that was when you tried to move the goal posts, all in an attempt to salvage what little face saving you could attempt.

I accept your surrender and please don't compound your shame, by continuing to lie about it.

OH and by the way, I still never "alluded" to you blaming Trump for anything and the fact that you tried to present it as such; not only speaks of your inability to comprehend the written word, but it also exposes your duplicity while attempting to appear correct in your erroneous assertion.

 

[Airstrip One]

Fuck Islam.