Islam hates us?

some good ideas on this thread. I'd argue what we say has little to do with ISIS or al-Qaeda recruitment.
Or more exactly the wars in Iraq and Libya have sown the seeds for ISIS to expand.

AQ came about by itself; it's a branch of salafi Islam that encourages jihad for both political and religious reasons.
ISIS we all know about -but again it's salafi Islam expressed as jihad.

There is this idea that closing Gitmo somehow reduces recruitment - when in fact if you follow the Long War Journal
you see that Gitmo is rarely mentioned in recruitment video.

herer is a link to Gitmo and return to terrorism http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi...es-are-confirmed-or-suspected-recidivists.php

So whatever we say isn't all that important - but it is a factor and clarity is a much better way.
Things have a life of their own. The ME countries are terrified of ISIS too, and for that reason are/will going after them..

Trump is not helping matters
 
As in Ireland, people in the Middle East often hate colonialist robbers. What this has to do with Islam would require plumbing the darker depths of the American racist mind, which is not anywhere sane people would want to go. In the same way, the Easter Rising was in direct contradiction to contemporary RC theology re blood sacrifice.

What made up country are you from again?
 
Wow. That's your best?

Well when your religion is going around cutting peoples heads off and making them convert or die, and the so called "moderates" do nothing, its easy to see why people like Trump reach their conclusion.

In fact if you look at polling data, 98% of Saudi's believe in Sharia Law.

78% of British Muslims want the Danish cartoonist persecuted.

There ISSSSSS Something seriously wrong in Islam, and they need a reformation.

Don't believe me? read here.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
 
Well when your religion is going around cutting peoples heads off and making them convert or die, and the so called "moderates" do nothing, its easy to see why people like Trump reach their conclusion.

In fact if you look at polling data, 98% of Saudi's believe in Sharia Law.

78% of British Muslims want the Danish cartoonist persecuted.

There ISSSSSS Something seriously wrong in Islam, and they need a reformation.

Don't believe me? read here.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

Jihad Report
Last 30 Days

Attacks 158
Killed 1391
Injured 1778
Suicide Blasts 25
Countries 25
 
Well when your religion is going around cutting peoples heads off and making them convert or die, and the so called "moderates" do nothing, its easy to see why people like Trump reach their conclusion.

In fact if you look at polling data, 98% of Saudi's believe in Sharia Law.

78% of British Muslims want the Danish cartoonist persecuted.

There ISSSSSS Something seriously wrong in Islam, and they need a reformation.

Don't believe me? read here.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

Better to shut the debate down by claiming bigotry than engage in it.

And around we go.
 
Well when your religion is going around cutting peoples heads off and making them convert or die, and the so called "moderates" do nothing, its easy to see why people like Trump reach their conclusion.

In fact if you look at polling data, 98% of Saudi's believe in Sharia Law.

78% of British Muslims want the Danish cartoonist persecuted.

There ISSSSSS Something seriously wrong in Islam, and they need a reformation.

Don't believe me? read here.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

Get your chickenshit ass over there
Crusader
 
Why do people always claim that the "moderates do nothing"? Our Muslim allies in the Middle East are very active in the fight against ISIS and other extremists.

Do people just say stuff like that? I don't get it.
 
Why do people always claim that the "moderates do nothing"? Our Muslim allies in the Middle East are very active in the fight against ISIS and other extremists.

Do people just say stuff like that? I don't get it.

A few sure. Do you see SA, Turkey and Egypt sending in their massive armys to mop up and depose ISIS? No.

They throw a few stones, and many of the people of SA and other "moderate" countries fund terrorism directly.
 
Show me your original post where you made the reference.

Never mind, I'll do it for you; because other wise you'll just lie about it, again.



Are you saying that the above quote was not made by you and please point out where you made any clarification, in the post that began this discussion between "marginalization" and "radicalization".

I'll await your capitulation or at the very least; you attempting to recover your honor, by moving the goal posts again.

He is duscussing actual marginalization not imaginary you fucking mental midget.
Stop wastung everyone's time with your childush inanitues. In other words STFU.
 
He is duscussing actual marginalization not imaginary you fucking mental midget.
Stop wastung everyone's time with your childush inanitues. In other words STFU.


A little overzealous with the letter U today aren't you? Was that the letter of the day on Sesame Street?
 
A few sure. Do you see SA, Turkey and Egypt sending in their massive armys to mop up and depose ISIS? No.

They throw a few stones, and many of the people of SA and other "moderate" countries fund terrorism directly.
suppose SA or Egypt went in. Then what? how are supply lines ran to supply it's army. Syria would be hostile territory
from all except the few secularists. The Islamists are also enemies of SA and Egypt.

The most they could do is go into Iraq,but there is no shortage of armies in Iraq.
The biggest being the Iranian Quds forces , or the Iraqi army which is little more then an insignia Badr brigade.

If a Sunni army goes in, it winds up facing Iran on the battlefield....

so what is the actualplan?
 
Ummmm....USF? The post I made at 3:26 is the one that you inferred that I was ONLY talking about poverty & socialization from. Which I corrected you on by pointing out that I clearly alluded to other factors with "And so on."

You completely forgot the post that we were discussing. Amazing.

I guess you just didn't read the part where I asked about your original post; but of course, that's why you want to divert the discussion to what YOU wanted it to be.

Once again, for you're reading disability, you never suggested that you were referring to other factors until you came to the realization that your "logic" was so full of holes that it wasn't able to carry the water you wanted it to.

Since you don't have the testicular fortitude to admit that you changed the goal posts, I'll graciously accept your surrender. :D
 
And again - your stupid false analogy relied on the assumption that I was blaming Trump for terrorist attacks. How is it possible for you to not see that?

Please show me where I mentioned you blaming Trump for terrorists attacks; because you tried this once before and were shown to be a liar.

By the way, your posts are becoming more and more Desh like; when you find it necessary to post to follow ups, with in 1 minute of each other, instead of just editing your previous post. :D
 
He is duscussing actual marginalization not imaginary you fucking mental midget.
Stop wastung everyone's time with your childush inanitues. In other words STFU.

Are you allowed back into APP yet or for that matter, Darla's Vajayjay?? :chesh:
 
suppose SA or Egypt went in. Then what? how are supply lines ran to supply it's army. Syria would be hostile territory
from all except the few secularists. The Islamists are also enemies of SA and Egypt.

The most they could do is go into Iraq,but there is no shortage of armies in Iraq.
The biggest being the Iranian Quds forces , or the Iraqi army which is little more then an insignia Badr brigade.

If a Sunni army goes in, it winds up facing Iran on the battlefield....

so what is the actualplan?

In that case its their own fault. SA has been teaching wahabism for nearly a century and stoking anti western views.

15/19 hijackers were from SA. Turkey has a 4 million man army. They could wipe ISIS out overnight if they wanted to.
 
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