Is President Apologist Still Kissing Commie Ass In Havana?

[J Craft]

Ignorant and intellectually lazy camp followers, show the world once again how marketing makes even a lunatic killer cool.

The truth about Che

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/truth-about-che-guevara

 

[J Craft]

According to Human Rights Watch, Cuba remains an oppressive regime.

 

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The fact is that the Castro's and others who led the Cuban revolution will soon be leaving power, when that happens America needs inroads to the Cuban establishment to be able to directly influence its direction. The end of the Castro grip on power will not come in a quick of violent revolution as many Cuban Americans had long hoped... it will come as they fade into history.

I am glad the United States is opening the possibility that Cuba will move more toward becoming an American ally instead of toward Venezuelan style government.

There is a grave danger that it could become another Guyana, especially if the Cuban Mafia get back and start running drugs, prostitution and gambling.

 

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Would you relocate to Cuba? Would you become a Cuban citizen? Would you live there?

It is a beautiful country and will be well worth living in once the infrastructure is up to snuff. Give it five years and they will have modern communications, roads and cars. As I have already said they have to make sure that they keep the Cuban Mafia out.

 

[J Craft]

It is a beautiful country and will be well worth living in once the infrastructure is up to snuff. Give it five years and they will have modern communications, roads and cars.

So you are inclined to invest money in Cuba, though the government remains a tyranny? The wealth of the Castros was accomplished through the theft of others, and the imprisonment and slaughtering of thousands.

 

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So you are inclined to invest money in Cuba, though the government remains a tyranny? The wealth of the Castros was accomplished through the theft of others, and the imprisonment and slaughtering of thousands.

Yes I am, Cuba is not much different to how Vietnam was about 10-15 years ago. Having just come back I can tell you that even in the smallest seemingly remote backwaters, the cafes and bars still have free wi-fi without any restrictions. Vietnamese people can now go to study pretty much anywhere, assuming they have the money of course. I would also submit that there are far worse tyrannies than Cuba, China and Indonesia spring to mind along with much of South America.

 

[philly rabbit]

It is a beautiful country and will be well worth living in once the infrastructure is up to snuff. Give it five years and they will have modern communications, roads and cars. As I have already said they have to make sure that they keep the Cuban Mafia out.

Not as long as they have an oppressive totalitarian government there will be no economic middle class emerging in Cuba. U.S. tax dollars in the millions every year will go to the government and will not aid the Cuban people. Totalitarian governments deliberately oppress the people so they can control them and keep them in need of government.

The U.S. middle class is already being destroyed by trade deals and illegal immigration. Why put this added burden on them?

 

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Not as long as they have an oppressive totalitarian government there will be no economic middle class emerging in Cuba. U.S. tax dollars in the millions every year will go to the government and will not aid the Cuban people. Totalitarian governments deliberately oppress the people so they can control them and keep them in need of government.

The U.S. middle class is already being destroyed by trade deals and illegal immigration. Why put this added burden on them?

Well as I said before you should go to Saigon and see what has happened over there. I see that being the future for Havana as well.

 

[philly rabbit]

Yes I am, Cuba is not much different to how Vietnam was about 10-15 years ago. Having just come back I can tell you that even in the smallest seemingly remote backwaters, the cafes and bars still have free wi-fi without any restrictions. Vietnamese people can now go to study pretty much anywhere, assuming they have the money of course. I would also submit that there are far worse tyrannies than Cuba, China and Indonesia spring to mind along with much of South America.

Vietnam showed you it's finest as you being a tourist. There is another side of Vietnam that it didn't show you, it's slave labor force. American corporations are there. Is there a middle class? NO! Where is the money going? It's going to the Vietnamese government and it is not being used to economically lift the people there.

 

[philly rabbit]

Well as I said before you should go to Saigon and see what has happened over there. I see that being the future for Havana as well.

Do they have a viable middle class? Or do they have a ruling class and a working class?

 

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Do they have a viable middle class? Or do they have a ruling class and a working class?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/cuba-middle-class_n_4260021.html

 

[philly rabbit]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/cuba-middle-class_n_4260021.html

Huffington Post .. come on, you're smarter than that. Compared to whom - Haiti?

 

[Leonthecat]

Huffington Post .. come on, you're smarter than that. Compared to whom - Haiti?

Tennessee.

 

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Huffington Post .. come on, you're smarter than that. Compared to whom - Haiti?

Not sure who you would believe, is the Brookings Institute acceptable? You do realise that Europeans have been taking holidays in Cuba for many years now, so they have developed a sophisticated leisure industry to cater for them.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/reports/2013/11/cuba-entrepreneurs-middle-classes-feinberg

 

[J Craft]

Yes I am, Cuba is not much different to how Vietnam was about 10-15 years ago. Having just come back I can tell you that even in the smallest seemingly remote backwaters, the cafes and bars still have free wi-fi without any restrictions. Vietnamese people can now go to study pretty much anywhere, assuming they have the money of course. I would also submit that there are far worse tyrannies than Cuba, China and Indonesia spring to mind along with much of South America.

Cuba is not Vietnam. The Castro's still reign in Cuba. Cuba still imprison dissidents. Castro's are still free to steal and imprison.

 

[J Craft]

5. You may be ready to go to Cuba, but Cuba might not be ready for you.
Being cut off from most U.S. travelers for more than five decades did not leave Cuba with a robust tourism industry. It's unclear if Cuba has enough hotels, restaurants, taxis, rental cars, etc. to support a large influx of Americans. According to the Washington Post, "The main terminal at Havana’s international airport has just four baggage carousels, and lines to get through security can be so long that flights are delayed." And the AP notes that the hotels Cuba does have "generally fall short of international standards."
"American tourists are really demanding," said Maikel Gonzalez, a 34-year-old hotel receptionist. "How do I explain to one that the taxi didn't come because it doesn't have tires or that there's no water in the rooms?"

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/5-things-to-know-for-your-future-cuban-vacation.html

 

[Leonthecat]

 

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Cuba is not Vietnam. The Castro's still reign in Cuba. Cuba still imprison dissidents. Castro's are still free to steal and imprison.

There is still a Communist government in Vietnam and I daresay they imprison dissidents as well. The USA supported some pretty disgusting and repressive regimes in the past, Cuba is changing and changing fast. There is no reason on Earth why Cuba couldn't produce cheaper drugs for the US for instance, they have a world beating pharma sector.

Meanwhile, Cuba’s potential lies in its drug R&D and manufacturing infrastructure, whose robustness stands in contrast to the country’s economic decay. Cuba had a meningococcal disease vaccine more than two decades before us and went on to develop medicines for lung cancer, hepatitis B, diabetic foot ulcers and other ailments that remain unavailable here due to the embargo. Its achievements have gotten attention from the U.S. already: On May 15, I reported that the Buffalo, N.Y., Roswell Park Cancer Institute was seeking business partners around a planned U.S. clinical trial of the Cuban lung cancer vaccine Cimavax. But a drawback companies may find is a preference by the Cuban government for joint ventures, several experts said, while Abivax CEO Hartmut Ehrlich said Cuban companies prefer to maintain full rights to products for Cuba and its allies such as Venezuela.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mergerm...ep-a-close-eye-on-cuba-and-iran/#2bd266a83649

 

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5. You may be ready to go to Cuba, but Cuba might not be ready for you.
Being cut off from most U.S. travelers for more than five decades did not leave Cuba with a robust tourism industry. It's unclear if Cuba has enough hotels, restaurants, taxis, rental cars, etc. to support a large influx of Americans. According to the Washington Post, "The main terminal at Havana’s international airport has just four baggage carousels, and lines to get through security can be so long that flights are delayed." And the AP notes that the hotels Cuba does have "generally fall short of international standards."
"American tourists are really demanding," said Maikel Gonzalez, a 34-year-old hotel receptionist. "How do I explain to one that the taxi didn't come because it doesn't have tires or that there's no water in the rooms?"

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/5-things-to-know-for-your-future-cuban-vacation.html

Yes there are logistics problems but then that's true of many new holiday destinations. They are building a new airport in Saigon as the old one is running out of capacity. There are many European travel companies that have Cuba on their books not least Thomas Cook!

https://www.thomascook.com/holidays/caribbean/cuba/