Inequality In U.S. Is Scarily High, Rising (INFOGRAPHIC)

tekkychick said:
While I agree having children starve to death is worse, kids who are mal-nutritioned have trouble focusing on school; they can't learn as well; in the long run they have fewer opportunities. They also suffer health-wise, including obesity and diabetes. (I know, ironic that mal-nutritioned kids get obesity, but cheap food is often high calorie food)

And then there are kids who live in places that still have lead in the paint... there was an appalling study done at some point in the last 10 years - they did a study of kids in houses/apts where the lead had been removed vs those who stayed in lead-infested places; after just something like 6 months, they noticed differences in intelligence. The appalling part is they didn't tell the parents of the kids with lead poisoning that their kids had it; they kept checking up on the kids, but never told the parents so the parents could get their kids out of those places. The parents, since the doctors were checking the kids regularly, didn't know there was a problem since the doctors never mentioned it...
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If I had to guess, the study was run by the gobblement?
 
Dungheap said:
You think a state like Texas or Mississippi is going to put in place its own minimum wage? In practice, leaving it up to the states means no minimum wage in the states with high poverty levels.
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Yes, I think they will. You are of the mindset that things only happen if the Federal government is involved. Which is not shocking given that is your MO. What is your basis for proclaiming they won't have a minimum wage?

But you've said that the problem is that these people lack skills. I don't see how more low-paying jobs that require no skills is a solution to a poverty problem, unless, of course, you require higher wages through -- and I'm just stabbing wildly in the dark here -- a minimum wage or something.
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Where is it that I said we should have more low-paying jobs? Oh, thats right... I didn't. Have fun knocking your straw man around.
 
tekkychick said:
No idea who the "she" was you thought was lying. I haven't noticed any females telling lies in this thread; I certainly haven't.
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The she is Desh... and she most certainly has lied.

Who are these people that you think depend on minimum wage to pay bills? You have acknowledged half are teens/college kids. You know from the stats that many of the others work in jobs that rely upon tips in addition to the minimum wage they receive.

You continue to ignore the fact that when you raise labor costs the prices of goods and services tends to escalate as well.
 
evince said:
its and old con trick.

call someone a liar even when they have never lied.

the ole repeat until people think is must be true
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LMAO... pure irony... you continue to lie about my position on the Citi thread Desh. I have pointed it out. You have continued to maintain that I said something other than that which I said. In other words, you are lying about my position.

You then lied on this thread about my position again.
 
Rana said:
It doesn't matter, at least they aren't starving to death, you aren't really bad off unless you have at least one child starve to death, then that is REAL poverty. The poverty experienced in the USA is not real poverty, it is just bad luck.
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You do realize it is DESH that stated poverty = starving babies??? It is DESH that insisted it was so? That it was myself that told her poverty did not equate to starvation?

Yeah... I didn't think you did.
 
tekkychick said:
While I agree having children starve to death is worse, kids who are mal-nutritioned have trouble focusing on school; they can't learn as well; in the long run they have fewer opportunities. They also suffer health-wise, including obesity and diabetes. (I know, ironic that mal-nutritioned kids get obesity, but cheap food is often high calorie food)
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Actually you can also become obese by eating too few calories.
 
Superfreak said:
The she is Desh... and she most certainly has lied.

Who are these people that you think depend on minimum wage to pay bills? You have acknowledged half are teens/college kids. You know from the stats that many of the others work in jobs that rely upon tips in addition to the minimum wage they receive.

You continue to ignore the fact that when you raise labor costs the prices of goods and services tends to escalate as well.
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This is such BULLSHIT Simplefreak.
Those who are compensated with tips enjoy a MUCH lower minimum pay rate; $2.30 /hour if I remember correctly.
To insinuate that those paid the federal minimum are likely to be tipped is complete cock and bull, so typical of your every utterance.
Further, to indicate that most who are paid only minimum wage are not heads of households or single parents exacerbates your dishonesty to a truly disgusting level.

You are basically a decent fellow, why must you stick with the (obviously) incorrect party line on this most important issue?
 
Superfreak said:
You do realize it is DESH that stated poverty = starving babies??? It is DESH that insisted it was so? That it was myself that told her poverty did not equate to starvation?

Yeah... I didn't think you did.
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Poverty does equal starving children. YOu don't have to die from starvation. You should google the term and learn some shit. You sound like such a callous asshole.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... pure irony... you continue to lie about my position on the Citi thread Desh. I have pointed it out. You have continued to maintain that I said something other than that which I said. In other words, you are lying about my position.

You then lied on this thread about my position again.
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You are a twister and a spinner, and everyone here who is not a stone cold con knows it, so I don't know who you think you are kidding, but nobody of any importance here thinks Desh lied.
 
Superfreak said:
Yes, I think they will. You are of the mindset that things only happen if the Federal government is involved. Which is not shocking given that is your MO. What is your basis for proclaiming they won't have a minimum wage?
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Seriously? Are you familiar at all with these states and their governments?



Superfreak said:
Where is it that I said we should have more low-paying jobs? Oh, thats right... I didn't. Have fun knocking your straw man around.
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Well, you said we need more jobs, which is true. But I don't see how it's possible for people who lack skills (which you've already said is the primary problem) to get high paying jobs. Maybe you can explain how the invisible hand will magically create high paying jobs for low skill workers.
 
Dungheap said:
Seriously? Are you familiar at all with these states and their governments?





Well, you said we need more jobs, which is true. But I don't see how it's possible for people who lack skills (which you've already said is the primary problem) to get high paying jobs. Maybe you can explain how the invisible hand will magically create high paying jobs for low skill workers.
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They're all going to get jobs as financial consultants.
 
Rune said:
This is such BULLSHIT Simplefreak.
Those who are compensated with tips enjoy a MUCH lower minimum pay rate; $2.30 /hour if I remember correctly.
To insinuate that those paid the federal minimum are likely to be tipped is complete cock and bull, so typical of your every utterance.
Further, to indicate that most who are paid only minimum wage are not heads of households or single parents exacerbates your dishonesty to a truly disgusting level.

You are basically a decent fellow, why must you stick with the (obviously) incorrect party line on this most important issue?
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I didn't do any such thing, though from the ONE post you read, I do see where you got confused. Had you read our entire conversation you would have seen that I had already stated that the minimum for those earning tips (like bartenders, waitstaff) was lower. I did not see the need to repeat that given she and I had already brought it up.

As for those earning minimum wage... they are not heads of households. That is directly from the government data sources that are listed on this thread. Half are teens/college kids. Most of the rest are second income earners. It is not my data... so if you may want to bitch at the government for it is they that made the data available.
 
By the way, check out this map of states with no minimum wage laws or minimum wages lower than the federal minimum wage:

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To this map of poverty levels in the states:

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Darla said:
You are a twister and a spinner, and everyone here who is not a stone cold con knows it, so I don't know who you think you are kidding, but nobody of any importance here thinks Desh lied.
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Irony. Pure irony. So when Desh claims I said one thing, posts the the thread she claims is where I said it, highlights the exact post and the words in that post do NOT say what she claims, that is not a lie?

Her deliberately misstating my position on THIS thread is either a lie or she is truly an idiot. You can tell us which it is. It is clear as day what she did. But because you are friends you would rather cover up her lie and try to protect her with the stupid bullshit that you have above.
 
Dungheap said:
Seriously? Are you familiar at all with these states and their governments?
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seriously? tell you what, you show me what you are basing your opinion off of and then we can discuss. What is it that makes you think they won't have a minimum?

Well, you said we need more jobs, which is true. But I don't see how it's possible for people who lack skills (which you've already said is the primary problem) to get high paying jobs. Maybe you can explain how the invisible hand will magically create high paying jobs for low skill workers.
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Again, when you are done creating straw men, let me know. I never once stated that we would be creating high paying jobs for low skill workers.
 
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