Inequality In U.S. Is Scarily High, Rising (INFOGRAPHIC)

evince said:
super the words are in her sig
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Yes, I saw you post them... it talks of poverty. It does not say starving babies are normal. So you lied.

If you bothered to read what I wrote on poverty and then respond to that, we could discuss. But you refuse to because you would rather spout your lies.
 
if poverty is normal that means starving babies are normal.

what the fuck to you think poverty is?
 
evince said:
if poverty is normal that means starving babies are normal.

what the fuck to you think poverty is?
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Also... if you (again) bothered to read what I wrote regarding poverty, you would know what I think it is. You could then debate that. But instead you choose to lie.
 
evince said:
how many have altered lives due to lack of nutrition?
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So you just realized that there are none starving? Ok, that is a start.

I think you meant to say lack of proper nutrition... and yes, there are certainly some that are malnourished either through lack of funds or through improper choices in diet. We can certainly discuss that and ways to resolve it. But minimum wage is an ineffective means of doing so and may actually harm more than it would help in that regard.
 
Superfreak said:
No, it won't. Because the majority of those on minimum wage are not primary income earners. Nor are they typically at poverty levels. When you add in the fact that costs of goods/services will increase as a result, you are only providing a temporary stop gap for the few that are primary income earners and in turn are screwing over everyone with higher inflation.
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Why do you remind me of people who used to say "it's ok to pay women less than men because men bring home the primary wage?"

What does it matter if it's primary wage or not? if it isn't - who says the primary wage will be there next month? People get fired, people get sick, people die.

Half the people earning minimum wage aren't teenagers - I posted that earlier. They need a wage that keeps up with inflation.
 
tekkychick said:
Why do you remind me of people who used to say "it's ok to pay women less than men because men bring home the primary wage?"
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Because you are sexist and wish to inject gender into everything I say. Or are you suggesting that I cannot have a discussion with a woman on this topic because any disagreement must be due to gender?

For the record, it is not ok to pay a woman less for the same job as a man (assuming both are similar qualifications/tenure)

What does it matter if it's primary wage or not? if it isn't - who says the primary wage will be there next month? People get fired, people get sick, people die.
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Yes and we have unemployment, medicare, medicaid etc... to combat those situations. It matters because minimum wage jobs are not designed for those looking to pay the bills etc... they are designed to give unskilled workers job experience (and ideally teach a skill... though too often that is not the case these days)

Half the people earning minimum wage aren't teenagers - I posted that earlier. They need a wage that keeps up with inflation.
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Yes, but most of them are in the service/restaurant industry. Their wages are supplemented by tips. As someone who has worked in such an environment, I know that the tips can be volatile. That said, those are still included in the minimum wage stats even though they have other compensation.
 
Superfreak said:
So you just realized that there are none starving? Ok, that is a start.

I think you meant to say lack of proper nutrition... and yes, there are certainly some that are malnourished either through lack of funds or through improper choices in diet. We can certainly discuss that and ways to resolve it. But minimum wage is an ineffective means of doing so and may actually harm more than it would help in that regard.
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I know it's the cool thing to do to claim that increasing the minimum wage (you seem to have a problem with the mere existence of a minimum wage and not necessarily the amount of the wage) does more harm than good but the economic research is inconclusive at best on that claim. I'm personally all in favor of other means to help out low wage workers but most of those other means involve government subsidies of one shape or another that Republicans oppose. Increasing government aid to low wage workers and families in poverty is basically a non-starter in the contemporary United States. So the minimum wage, while not necessarily optimal, is good because it does not require the government to pay anyone anything directly.
 
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