I'm just not feeling it...

[LV426]

I was simply pointing out two things I agree with trump on, see npc that's called being objective, not a partisan tool like yourself.

You don't even know the details of this thing you are saying you agree with Trump on. And when pressed for details, you get screechy and manipulative...all to preserve this carefully crafted facade of "objectivity" of which you're attempting to convince everyone.

I don't buy it.

I think you're too consumed with how people perceive you to think critically of this thing you say you support, but don't really know the details of...

 

[Underdog]

You don't even know the details of this thing you are saying you agree with Trump on. And when pressed for details, you get screechy and manipulative...all to preserve this carefully crafted facade of "objectivity" of which you're attempting to convince everyone.

I don't buy it.

I think you're too consumed with how people perceive you to think critically of this thing you say you support, but don't really know the details of...

Literally posted the bill, literally stated I am for patient choice in the matter. That's it. If obama had supported this, I would have applauded him. Again, I don't give a fuck what you think.

 

[LV426]

I stopped reading after your first sentence. Not only don't i give a fuck about you or anyone else here, if you ask me an hr from now to name 5 posters here, I'd have a hard time.

What you care about is how people perceive you...so you sacrifice your judgment and integrity to find a point of agreement with Trump so you can maintain a facade of "I'm objective" or "see, I see the merits of both sides" which is really just to give yourself comfort for being too afraid to confront the truth; that Trump is a conman and there is no such thing as "both sides".

"Both sides" is insidious propaganda meant to normalize abhorrent Conservative behavior and policy. It also says you can't be expected to make distinctions and differences and thus, everyone must manage their expectations of you downward. So you don't actually raise your credibility when you "both sides" shit...you diminish it.

 

[Underdog]

What you care about is how people perceive you...so you sacrifice your judgment and integrity to find a point of agreement with Trump so you can maintain a facade of "I'm objective" or "see, I see the merits of both sides" which is really just to give yourself comfort for being too afraid to confront the truth; that Trump is a conman and there is no such thing as "both sides".

"Both sides" is insidious propaganda meant to normalize abhorrent Conservative behavior and policy. It also says you can't be expected to make distinctions and differences and thus, everyone must manage their expectations of you downward. So you don't actually raise your credibility when you "both sides" shit...you diminish it.

I'm not a conservative. I think republicans are as abhorrent as democrats. You are a mindless partisan hack and your cockamamie notion you are trying to sell here is the dumbest thing on the internet today, and we are all left a little bit dumber for having to read it. May god have mercy upon your soul.

 

[LV426]

Literally posted the bill, literally stated I am for patient choice in the matter. That's it. If obama had supported this, I would have applauded him. Again, I don't give a fuck what you think.

Posting the bill takes NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER.

The effort is reading and understanding the bill and thinking through the consequences, which you didn't do.

Instead, you sought to manipulate me into supporting your bullshit by invoking a "what iof" scenario that you had previously attacked me for doing for the opposite scenario.

And that was done for no other reason than to self-serve your own ego to appear "bipartisan" or whatever you're trying to go for...certainly not objective truth because the objective truth of that bill is not that it provides access to life-saving treatment for terminally ill patients (it doesn't), but rather allows drug companies to make additional profits off the false hope of terminal patients they have no intention of helping because if they did, then the procedures in question would have been submitted for FDA approval.

The FDA already has an extremely low bar when it comes to approving things, so if the FDA won't approve an experimental treatment, chances are it's because that experimental treatment is crap.

Also, not getting something approved by the FDA means you can say whatever the fuck you want about the product. In fact, that's precisely what got Dr. Oz in trouble. He endorsed non-FDA approved products that made illegitimate claims and provided false hope. What happened to the company that produced all those products? They had to settle out of court.

Obama would have never supported this.

 

[LV426]

I'm not a conservative. I think republicans are as abhorrent as democrats.

It doesn't matter if you're a Conservative or not.

By "both siding" shit, you are normalize abhorrent Conservative behavior. That, in and of itself is propaganda.

Both sides are not the same, and you're saying to the world with your statement that you cannot be expected to make distinctions and differences.

So that means it's left up to everyone else to divine whatever motivation you have, to which you will categorically and comprehensively deny that motivation even as you leave your motivation unspoken...which is a form of gaslighting.

So really, you say you're not a Conservative, but I can play Conservative rhetorical bingo with everything you write.

So you are getting conned into "both sides" propaganda which only comes from Conservatives and is only an effort to normalize their abhorrent policies and behaviors.

HARD FUCKING PASS.

 

[LV426]

You are a mindless partisan hack and your cockamamie notion you are trying to sell here is the dumbest thing on the internet today, and we are all left a little bit dumber for having to read it. May god have mercy upon your soul.

Here's how mindless you are:

You are so desperate to appear "above the fray" and how not getting partisan will somehow show you to be a reasonable person. But let's break down how that's not the case:

As stated before, the concept of "both sides are the same" comes not from a place of moderation or the political center. It comes specifically from Conservatives who want to normalize their abhorrent behavior and policies. So they con people like you, people who are insecure, into thinking both sides are of equal tenor and veracity and untrustworthy because that makes it easier for you to consider their abhorrent policies alongside others. They want that for you so you can pretend like you're so much more wiser and/or moderate and thus, willing to compromise, because they know that you're willing to sacrifice your personal integrity and judgment for the sake of outside perception.

Get the fuck over yourself.

 

[Underdog]

It doesn't matter if you're a Conservative or not.

By "both siding" shit, you are normalize abhorrent Conservative behavior. That, in and of itself is propaganda.

Both sides are not the same, and you're saying to the world with your statement that you cannot be expected to make distinctions and differences.

So that means it's left up to everyone else to divine whatever motivation you have, to which you will categorically and comprehensively deny that motivation even as you leave your motivation unspoken...which is a form of gaslighting.

So really, you say you're not a Conservative, but I can play Conservative rhetorical bingo with everything you write.

So you are getting conned into "both sides" propaganda which only comes from Conservatives and is only an effort to normalize their abhorrent policies and behaviors.

HARD FUCKING PASS.

But you act like democrats don't engage in "abhorrent behavior" do you truly believe the other tribe is evil and yours good?

 

[Underdog]

Here's how mindless you are:

You are so desperate to appear "above the fray" and how not getting partisan will somehow show you to be a reasonable person. But let's break down how that's not the case:

As stated before, the concept of "both sides are the same" comes not from a place of moderation or the political center. It comes specifically from Conservatives who want to normalize their abhorrent behavior and policies. So they con people like you, people who are insecure, into thinking both sides are of equal tenor and veracity and untrustworthy because that makes it easier for you to consider their abhorrent policies alongside others. They want that for you so you can pretend like you're so much more wiser and/or moderate and thus, willing to compromise, because they know that you're willing to sacrifice your personal integrity and judgment for the sake of outside perception.

Get the fuck over yourself.

Do you want me to post chuck schumer and hillary supporting the immigration reform that trump proposes just a few years ago?


Do you want me to post obama and hillary both stating marriage is between a man and a woman?


I can go on and on and on.


The parties are only slightly different, they look out for each other though behind the scenes.

 

[Underdog]

Also I don't mind the insults, but up your game, lets be entertaining when insulting each other. deal? lol

 

[LV426]

But you act like democrats don't engage in "abhorrent behavior" do you truly believe the other tribe is evil and yours good?

And right on cue comes the "Whatabout".

"Whatabout Democrats?" "Whatabout Obama?" "Whatabout America's foreign policy?" "Whatabout whatabout whatabout?"

So now, on top of being a lazy fucking asshole who wants to gaslight everyone, you have to go full FSB and engage in KGB propaganda techniques like whatabouting just so you don't have to admit to the phoniness of your own persona that you've established for yourself here.

BARF.

 

[Underdog]

And right on cue comes the "Whatabout".

"Whatabout Democrats?" "Whatabout Obama?" "Whatabout America's foreign policy?" "Whatabout whatabout whatabout?"

So now, on top of being a lazy fucking asshole who wants to gaslight everyone, you have to go full FSB and engage in KGB propaganda techniques like whatabouting just so you don't have to admit to the phoniness of your own persona that you've established for yourself here.

BARF.

I hope you choke getting throat fucked with your whataboutism shit and where I think you should stuff it.


gaslighting? Do you even know what that means? derp.


anyway, "whataboutism" is just liberals not taking responsibility for their own hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

 

[LV426]

Do you want me to post chuck schumer and hillary supporting the immigration reform that trump proposes just a few years ago

STOP.

Anything Trump tells you is a lie.

ANYTHING.

I don't know why you think what he says is the truth, and what other Conservatives say is the truth. Maybe it's getting back to the "both sides" mindset you have, where your brain is wired for purely binary thinking and that everything must have an equal and polar opposite. That type of binary thinking is the product of someone who is in a state of arrested development. Or who is just incredibly fucking lazy and entitled. I don't really know which category you fall in, nor do I really care. What I care about is the fact that you engage in these techniques while trying to maintain a persona that serves no one and nothing other than your ego.

And Trump didn't support the Immigration Reform bill that was proposed by Obama back in 2013. And neither did Conservatives, and there's no revisionist history in the world that will suddenly make that true.

Do you want me to post obama and hillary both stating marriage is between a man and a woman?

And they changed their minds.

So what's the reason Conservatives haven't changed theirs?????????????

You want to whatabout? Fine. let's whatabout. Whatabout Conservatives not changing their views on marriage? Obama and Clinton both did, why haven't Conservatives followed suit?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

You want to dwell on past positions, fine! This is what that looks like; the point being turned back on you.

So since Clinton and Obama both evolved on gay marriage, why hasn't the GOP followed suit? Why hasn't Trump?

Any answer? No. Because you're not here to answer questions...you're here to try and establish "both sides" so that way, you can be spared of actually doing any work for yourself.

 

[LV426]

I can go on and on and on

No you can't.

You point to past policy that has since been changed while not answering for those whose policy hasn't changed.

Why? Because "both sides" is the lazy man's way of preserving egos.

So why did you invoke Clinton and Obama on gay marriage question? How does that serve your argument? Both have since changed their positions while Conservatives haven't. So it's not "both sides" and by invoking those past positions, you only make a stronger case against yourself.

What a doof.

 

[LV426]

Also I don't mind the insults, but up your game, lets be entertaining when insulting each other. deal? lol

I'm not feeling it from you...there's no effort in anything you write. You don't do the work, and you demand accommodation of your entitlement...entitlement you didn't earn.

 

[Tkaffen]

I’m sure Trump interviewed her and hired her. Idiot

 

[LV426]

I hope you choke getting throat fucked with your whataboutism shit and where I think you should stuff it.

Way to be an unwitting FSB stooge by embracing literal KGB tactics.

"Both sides"

LOL.

 

[Underdog]

STOP.

Anything Trump tells you is a lie.

ANYTHING.

So by you making this up, how are you any better than trump? You lie just like him.

I don't know why you think what he says is the truth, and what other Conservatives say is the truth. Maybe it's getting back to the "both sides" mindset you have, where your brain is wired for purely binary thinking and that everything must have an equal and polar opposite. That type of binary thinking is the product of someone who is in a state of arrested development. Or who is just incredibly fucking lazy and entitled. I don't really know which category you fall in, nor do I really care. What I care about is the fact that you engage in these techniques while trying to maintain a persona that serves no one and nothing other than your ego.

I literally pointed out he lies, so does the media though, an objective person needs to look at the claims by either and investigate for themselves to discover the truth.

And Trump didn't support the Immigration Reform bill that was proposed by Obama back in 2013. And neither did Conservatives, and there's no revisionist history in the world that will suddenly make that true.

The wall is where they part.


I agree with obama a wall is a dumb idea.

And they changed their minds.

So what's the reason Conservatives haven't changed theirs?????????????

Many, including trump has, stop being a mindless partisan, I am showing you how they are the same.

You want to whatabout? Fine. let's whatabout. Whatabout Conservatives not changing their views on marriage? Obama and Clinton both did, why haven't Conservatives followed suit?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Whatabout it, anyone who doesn't support the right of people to marry whoever the fuck they want are bigoted assholes. Your party's candidates only changed thier positions on it when it became clear society had accepted it and it would get them votes.

You want to dwell on past positions, fine! This is what that looks like; the point being turned back on you.

So since Clinton and Obama both evolved on gay marriage, why hasn't the GOP followed suit? Why hasn't Trump?

Any answer? No. Because you're not here to answer questions...you're here to try and establish "both sides" so that way, you can be spared of actually doing any work for yourself.

Trump supports gay marriage. Most republicans are neutral on it these days, thier opinions evolved as well.

 

[LV426]

gaslighting? Do you even know what that means? derp.

We both know what it means because it's what you're exercising here.

Your "both sides" persona is the ultimate gaslight because it forces us to divine the motivation for why you are "both siding" things, only to see you deny everything while not being truthful with your intent.

Again, I see right through that shit. You don't fool me.

 

[Underdog]

Way to be an unwitting FSB stooge by embracing literal KGB tactics.

"Both sides"

LOL.

It's your mindless arrogant ignorance that most impresses me. I will ask you again, are democrats simply good, and republicans bad?