good lord, i had no idea it would be this complicated to convey a simple idea to you. the code i gave you clearly indicates that in the instances specified the act of being here is in fact criminal if they are convicted. you have been yammering on about how they are not criminals because you keep trying to compare breaking the law to a civil breaking the law, which doesn't make someone a criminal. so...................i show yoiu the law which states that in those instances (which basically covers all incidents of illegal entry) it is in face criminal. thus your argument underlined above is false...unless you're arguing the code is also dehuminizing them....