If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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Margot
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Spirit! Spirit isn't subject to the laws of physics
IBDaMann
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@Into the Night specifically stated that YOU cannot create matter and energy out of nothing. He has also said the same of me. I believe, however, that if YHWH were consulted, He would probably back @Into the Night's contention. It's things like this that make me an atheist.
IBDaMann
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The laws of nature do not imply a deity. Your faith points you toward a deity. Your faith is what is leading you to believe that the laws of nature somehow imply a deity.
The Big Bang is a theory, but is not science. You are an undereducated moron. There is no Big Bang science, only the Big Bang theory. If you are looking for science of an expanding universe then you need to read Stephen Hawking's doctoral thesis. Otherwise, the Big Bang theory does not meet the requirements to be science and therefore cannot be science.
IBDaMann
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I've got spirit, yes I do.
I've got spirit, how 'bout you?
I'm not subject to the laws of physics. @Into the Night, the first thing I'm to do is to create matter and energy out of nothing and throw it in yo' face. Then I'm going to cause some Global Warming and some ocean acidification. What are you going to say then?
IBDaMann
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Nope. The logical inference would be that it points to law enforcement. If you don't have law enforcement, you have lawlessness.
Cops. Where are the universe's cops to maintain the lawfulness?
Explain where the universal mathematical laws of nature came from in your own words.
Even when I was trying to be an atheist it struck me as logically incoherent that universal mathematical order and lawful organization just somehow resulted from random inanimate chance.
The best explanation based on the physical properties we can observe is that there is a rational and purposeful force or entity that caused a rational, mathematical, organized reality to begin to exist.
The science that investigates the Big Bang is called cosmology.
You've never read it, there is zero chance you ever did. You can't demand I read it.
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A cursory review of the Gospel of Luke or the Epistle of James will dispel that notion for you.
What is the nature of "spirit"? How do you detect it and know it exists as something other than imagination?
And how do you know it isn't subject to the laws of physics?
Margot
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Good luck being an atheist
Margot
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You said you were an atheist! Go with the path you chose!
When you get to Balaam's mule,we will talk again
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As this and other threads prove, militant atheists are broken people. Sad.
The comment I have about a multiverse is that it still doesn't explain a beginning, or the origin of universal mathematical laws of physics. Logic and science suggest there was a beginning, the universes can't be infinitly old.
According to cosmologist David Whittle, the total (positive) mass-energy of the observable universe is estimated at 10 exponent 53 kg.
The total (negative) gravitational energy of the observable universe is 10 exponent 53 kg
The sum of positive mass-energy and negative gravitational energy is therefore estimated to be equal to zero.
This is an extraordinary result.
Almost any other result would imply a universe that collapses back on itself in a fraction of a second, or inflates so rapidly that atomic matter doesn't have a chance to form.
Of the infinite number of mathematical possibilities for an energy balance in the universe, it seems to be balanced precisely at zero.
We seem to live in a universe that is improbably finely tuned on the razor's edge.
IBDaMann
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So your take is that the laws of nature imply a place, i.e. a place from where they originally migrated, yes? That's a rather stupid position. The laws of nature don't need to come from anywhere.
Do you believe in a god? From where did he migrate?
No one can try to be an atheist. It's amazing that you remain unable to learn what an atheist is, even when you are told multiple times.
... understandibly because you are a willful moron. You don't seem to be able to understand anything you are taught. Ever.
You haven't explained how it is order. Order implies arrangement, and our universe is a random dust cloud. You are greatly confused.
There is no organization in a random dust cloud.
Random dust clouds are the epitome of random inanimate chance.
I will make that determination, thank you.
... yesssss .....
FTFY. Your position is inane
There is no such thing as any science that investigates. There are people/researchers who investigate things, and science isn't people. It's sad that science is one of those things that you are unable to learn.
What is "it"? Do you know what an antecedent is?
IBDaMann
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I am. Do you know what an atheist is?
What path would that be? I don't recall ever choosing any paths.
He's such an ass.
You might not be able to see me.
So you don't have any answer as to why they exist or take the particular form they do.
That's the answer I expected.
According to you, they either just randomly popped into existence, or they exist and persist for no particular reason at all.
You are a bad faith poster I'm not going to invest much time in.
You insinuated that you supposedly had read Steven Hawking's PhD dissertation, which we both know is a lie.
It's not a profitable use of my time to engage with liars.
Are talking donkeys the only means of understanding the nature of "spirit"?
Margot
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They Chose a path,they can walk it
Margot
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Into the Night
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I don't worship random letters.