If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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Was it me?
my god endorses the golden rule.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
there is morality and it is objective.
morality is the set of attitudes and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.
ZenMode
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Because enslaving free people is clearly wrong, hence the world moved on to a reality that your God missed.
ZenMode
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How about a tsunami that you created?
ZenMode
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Nope. You selective morality comes from the Bible and it changes as society's view of morality changes.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
the golden rule covers slavery.
ZenMode
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There is between the OT and NT and today.
Into the Night
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That it was. I submit that like so many times before, the Israelites forgot the purpose of the commandment, and even often forgot the commandment completely.
That said, many Jews observe Sabbath today, running from sundown (6pm) Friday to nightfall (7pm) Satuday.
Most Christians use Sunday instead.
(Note: the names for the days of the week are taken from Norse and Roman god's names).
One day of the week to rest from the work of the other six. It really doesn't matter what day it is.
Sunday (day of the Sun, or sunne, or sol, or Helios)
Monday (day of the Moon, or monne (the root of 'month'), or Selene)
Tuesday (day of Tyre, the Norse god of ice and snow)
Wednesday (day of Wotan, the Norse god of the air and chief of the Norse gods, who commissioned Vahala).
Thursday (day of Thor, the Norse god of storms, and guardian of Vahala).
Friday (day of Fria, the Norse goddess of Spring, who raised the golden apples that gave the gods eternal life).
Saturday (day of Saturnia, a Roman god of feast, harvest, and plenty).
Other cultures, such as Japanese are similar, with uses the postfix -yobi instead of the postfix -day.
Nichiyobi (Sunday). This also means 'day of the Sun', or Aremetstu)
Getsuyobi (Monday)). This also means 'day of the Moon', or Tsukuyomi)
Kayobi (Tuesday). This is the 'day of fire', and refers to Mars, with it's fiery red appearance in the night sky).
Suiyobi (Wednesday). This is the 'day of water' and refers to Mercury (what they consider as a 'water' star).
Mokuyobi (Thursday). This is the 'day of wood' and represents growth and prosperity.
Kinyobi (Friday). This is the 'day of metal' (usually gold) and refers to Venus (the 'metal star', noting the brightness of the planet).
Doyobi (Saturday). This is the 'day of earth'.
Calendars and timekeeping vary widely among cultures, including days of the week. The interesting thing is that most cultures observe a seven day week, which is the same as referenced in the 7 'days' mentioned in the Bible.
Other cultures, of course, don't observe anything like a week, or even bother to use much of a calendar at all, noting only when a particular fruit or plant is available to harvest.
It still carries serious consequences. By ignoring the council of God, you ignore the benefit you obtain from following it. In some cases, this can result in permanent self induced damage to yourself.
The Ten Commandments are not a sin at all. They are good solid council.
Into the Night
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Inversion fallacy.
Into the Night
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There is nothing inconsistent about God or the gospel between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
the NT supercedes the OT.
for Christians anyways.
Christ is the beginning of a new covenant for all people.
this is the good news.
have your heard the news?
extra extra read all about, on this day a child was born.......
Into the Night
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Science does not explain why lightning happens. It only explains it's behavior.
Science does not explain why the Universe exists.
Science does not explain how life arrived on Earth.
Science does not explain what happens after death (other than to the dead body).
Science does not explain what consciousness is.
Science does not explain what gravity is. It only describes its behavior.
Science does not explain why animals much larger than human beings don't get anywhere the cancer rate that human beings suffer, even though they have far more cells.
Science does not explain how long a coastline is.
Science does not explain how a bicycle is so stable.
Science does not explain how an ice skate can so easily move across the ice.
Science does not explain how or why we dream.
Science does not explain how any species came to be, or even how many species there are on Earth.
Science does not explain what 'real' means.
Science does not explain where it rains. It does not explain random events or random numbers.
Science does not explain why planets are in the orbits they are in, or their size, or why they are made up of the materials they are made up of.
Science does not explain why Earth has a Moon, or why other planets have multiple moons.
Science does not explain why a caterpillar turns into a butterfly.
Science does not explain why viruses exist, nor explains how many different ones exist.
Science does not explain why our Sun is so remarkably stable.
Science does not explain why a god or gods may exist or not.
No. Your beliefs are based on your religions. You are a fundamentalist in several religions.
You routinely ignore several theories of science including:
* Newton's laws of gravitation and of motion.
* Planck's law
* Heisenberg's law
* The Ideal Gas law
* The 0th, 1st, and 2nd laws of thermodynamics
* The Stefan-Boltzmann law
* The inverse square law
* Chemistry
You still believe that a Magick Gas can somehow make the Earth warmer.
You still believe that CFCs cause a hole in the ozone layer.
You still believe that a dust mask can protect you from a virus.
You still believe that oil and natural gas are not renewable energy sources.
Science isn't a religion.
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Into the Night
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So you withdraw your 1st commandment.
RQAA
Nothing.
Answer the questions. You have already chosen to withdraw your 1st commandment. You provided originally only two, not ten.
Apparently you can't count.
Into the Night
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No, it hasn't. Slavery still exists today, even in the United States.
Go learn what 'real' means and how it's defined.
God doesn't miss a thing. He knows who is enslaved, just as he knows you. He knows who the slave masters are and will hold them accountable if they abuse their slaves.
Presentism fallacy.
Into the Night
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I don't create tsunamis.
Into the Night
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It was never the only law. The golden rule does not replace any law.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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There is no such thing as 'objective morality'. It is simply 'morality'.
Mutually beneficial? This is a void argument. What about the resources you mutually benefit from that others can no longer benefit from (since the resource was consumed)?.
What is voluntary about needing food, water, and shelter to survive? Even the victims of the Homeless Industrial complex have food, water, and shelter.
What is cooperative about murder and it's consequences, or why one should avoid murder? What about self defense resulting in a lethal outcome? What about protecting the public using lethal force and even war if necessary?
What about Satan and his angels? They certainly cooperate to benefit themselves? Does that mean they are moral?
What about imprisoning Satan or his followers in a lake of fire? That is certainly not a voluntary thing. Does that make Jesus Christ iimmoral?
What about the morals of a Buddhist monk? Does his morals benefit Christians?
What about the morals of a radical muslim? Does his morals benefit Christians?
What about an atheist that saves the life of a Christian child from a house fire? Does he have morals as an atheist?
I think you have no idea what 'morals' means or where they come from.
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ZenMode
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. Once again playing dumb.