How Many More Must Die

Old Trapper said:
The Supreme Court just struck down those Trumpian rules. They were unConstitutional
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not true.......the laws keeping them in Mexico until they have been processed for refugee status have not been struck down......the only thing struck down is an automatic rejection for everyone who enters the country illegally before applying for refugee status.........they can still be rejected.......its just not an automatic rejection.........
 
Old Trapper said:
For what purpose?

Honduras is a low middle-income country that faces major challenges, with more than 66 percent of the population living in poverty in 2016, according to official data. In rural areas, approximately one out of 5 Hondurans live in extreme poverty, or on less than US$1.90 per day.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/honduras
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And what is Honduras doing, to address their countries problems??
 
Sailor said:
The problem with people like you reading "law" is that you do not know how to interpret it. There is much, much more to it than that. Like this:

"What Happens to Asylum Seekers Arriving at a U.S. Border?

Noncitizens who are encountered by, or present themselves to, a U.S. official at a port of entry or near the border are subject to expedited removal, an accelerated process which authorizes DHS to perform rapid deportations of certain individuals.

To ensure that the United States does not violate international and domestic laws by returning individuals to countries where their life or liberty may be at risk, the credible fear and reasonable fear screening processes are available to asylum seekers in expedited removal processes.

Credible Fear

Individuals who are placed in expedited removal proceedings and who tell a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) official that they fear persecution, torture, or returning to their country or that they wish to apply for asylum should be referred for a credible fear screening interview conducted by an asylum officer.

If the asylum officer determines that the asylum seeker has a credible fear of persecution or torture, it means that the person has proven that he or she has a “significant possibility” of establishing eligibility for asylum or other protection under the Convention Against Torture. The individual will then be referred to immigration court to proceed with the defensive asylum application process.

If the asylum officer determines the person does not have a credible fear, the individual is ordered removed. Before deportation, the individual may appeal the negative credible fear decision by pursuing a truncated review process before an immigration judge. If the immigration judge overturns a negative credible fear finding, the individual is placed in further removal proceedings through which the individual can seek protection from removal. If the immigration judge upholds the negative finding by the asylum officer, the individual will be removed from the United States." https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-states
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Evidently Trapper feels that "credible fear" means that they just have to say so, with no proof. :palm:
 
Old Trapper said:
Hey stupid, where in that parcel of the law do you see an applicant being detained in a foreign country, and reliant on the welfare of that country?

Read the law dumb fuck.

"Individuals who are placed in expedited removal proceedings and who tell a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) official that they fear persecution, torture, or returning to their country or that they wish to apply for asylum should be referred for a credible fear screening interview conducted by an asylum officer."

Where is that part of the law being performed?
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It's being done, one at a time, on a first come basis.
 
Old Trapper said:
Like I have said, and posted, READ THE FUCKING LAW, AND QUIT PLAYING THE FOOL

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

The two ways of obtaining asylum in the United States are through the affirmative process and defensive process.
Affirmative Asylum Processing With USCIS

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
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You mad bro??

Here's a cape, so now you can be SUPER MAD. :D
 
PostmodernProphet said:
not true.......the laws keeping them in Mexico until they have been processed for refugee status have not been struck down......the only thing struck down is an automatic rejection for everyone who enters the country illegally before applying for refugee status.........they can still be rejected.......its just not an automatic rejection.........
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OUCH

That's going to leave a nasty bruise.

:truestory:
 
Celticguy said:
The law requires a visa. These are people attempting a criminal act.
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Not exactly......

A defensive application for asylum occurs when you request asylum as a defense against removal from the U.S. For asylum processing to be defensive, you must be in removal proceedings in immigration court with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).

Individuals are generally placed into defensive asylum processing in one of two ways:·

They are referred to an Immigration Judge by USCIS after they have been determined to be ineligible for asylum at the end of the affirmative asylum process, or
They are placed in removal proceedings because they:

Were apprehended (or caught) in the United States or at a U.S. port of entry without proper legal documents or in violation of their immigration status,

OR

Were caught by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) trying to enter the United States without proper documentation, were placed in the expedited removal process, and were found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture by an Asylum Officer. See Questions & Answers: Credible Fear Screenings for more information on the Credible Fear Process.

Immigration Judges hear defensive asylum cases in adversarial (courtroom-like) proceedings. The judge will hear arguments from both of the following parties:

The individual (and his or her attorney, if represented)·
The U.S. Government, which is represented by an attorney from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
The Immigration Judge then decides whether the individual is eligible for asylum. If found eligible, the Immigration Judge will order asylum to be granted. If found ineligible for asylum, the Immigration Judge will determine whether the individual is eligible for any other forms of relief from removal. If found ineligible for other forms of relief, the Immigration Judge will order the individual to be removed from the United States. The Immigration Judge’s decision can be appealed by either party.

See Granted a Green Card by an Immigration Judge for information about the grant of asylum by an Immigration Judge, .

For information about the Executive Office for Immigration Review, including the Immigration Courts and the Board of Immigration Appeals, see Executive Office for Immigration Review (PDF, 140 KB).

Key Differences Between “Affirmative” and “Defensive” Asylum Process
 
Old Trapper said:
They could have been allowed across the border as the law requires.

What is there about the "rule of law" you righties hate?
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How many of those that the taxpayers would be forced to support have you personally taken in? What is there about personal responsibility that you lefties hate?
 
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