Happy Trayvon Martin Day

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Grind you really need to get laid.

duhhhhh

 

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Nope, you can't prove any of this, and in fact, there are more than enough reasons in our criminal justice system to strike someone in self-defense.

The fact is you have been caught in a huge contradiction. Poor SF got caught up in your contradiction and just got his ass handed to him by String. You should apologize to SF!

there is zero evidence trayvon reacted in self defense. It doesn't exist. The only evidence we have is that he viciously assaulted zimmerman. As such, that is how I judge the situation.

 

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there is zero evidence trayvon reacted in self defense. It doesn't exist. The only evidence we have is that he viciously assaulted zimmerman. As such, that is how I judge the situation.

The fact that he was followed actually does support self-defense, but regardless, you stated something as fact and it's not. "how you judge the situation" is one thing. Claiming it's a fact that he is a criminal, is another. Just say you were wrong and get it over with. Do you really want to Superfreak this?

 

[Timshel]

following is not a crime. And there is zero evidence of him doing anything else, other than your own speculation.

We know he left his vehicle and was told not to follow Trayvon. Why was he out of his car? There is also testimony that Zimmerman questioned Trayvon. It's not just speculation. There is plenty of proof that the criminal Zimmerman was stalking and harassing a boy out to buy candy.

But somehow Zimmerman is justified in killing the young boy and becomes your hero because he was too pathetic to defend himself without a gun.

Zimmerman had no business creating the situation.

 

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You claimed that it's okay to assume those who have not been convicted are criminals, like OJ and apparently Trayvon Martin? But not Zimmerman?

No, I stated that one does not need to be convicted of a crime to be a criminal. I stated that if there is evidence presented that shows someone committed a crime, then yes. In Martins case, the physical evidence shows that he beat the hell out of Zimmerman. It does not show that Zimmerman attacked him. Zimmerman had not broken any laws at the point the physical confrontation started. Given the wounds on him and the lack of such on Martin, it shows who beat who.

While it is obvious Zimmerman shot and killed Martin, it is not obvious nor has evidence been presented to show whether or not it was self defense or 2nd degree murder as he has been charged.

So keep on spinning.

Again, there is plenty of physical evidence suggesting that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime.

Please list the evidence.

Those trying to paint Trayvon as some sort of criminal thug seem to be race baiting. But, maybe it's not really about his race but his clothing, right? It's not hysterical at all. What else is there to justify calling him a criminal?

The fact that he beat the crap out of Zimmerman. How many times must that be explained to you?

There is no proof of assault by Trayvon.

The evidence does show that he beat the crap out of Zimmerman. Again, no wounds on Martin other than the gun shot. Nothing at all to suggest Zimmerman ever hit him.

In fact Zimmerman, by following or worse, possibly attempting to apprehend Trayvon, is the one likely guilty of assault.

and now we get back to your bullshit that you swallowed from the media.

1) Following Martin is not assault, it is not breaking the law in any fashion.
2) 'possibly attempting to apprehend Trayvon'... there is nothing to suggest that is what occurred. You are now tossing out accusations against Zimmerman without evidence to support such nonsense. Why is that? Because Zimmerman is hispanic? What other reason could you have for doing so?

That could be why Trayvon acted in self defense, rather than being guilty of battery. Zimmerman had no reason to be following Trayvon and his behavior may have made Trayvon feel threatened.

1) If there was a history of break-ins in the neighborhood, then there was reason to follow him. There is not a law against doing so.
2) Someone following you is not justification for beating the crap out of them.

again, you are swallowing the media fed bullshit that began immediately following the shooting when the media was pretending Zimmerman was a white guy who shot a black guy blah blah blah.

 

[Timshel]

there is zero evidence trayvon reacted in self defense. It doesn't exist. The only evidence we have is that he viciously assaulted zimmerman. As such, that is how I judge the situation.

And another point here, why is it that the burden of proof is on Trayvon's side to prove he acted in self defense? Is that same burden on Zimmerman?

Zimmerman was following Trayvon. It was not an unprovoked attack. Unjustified attack, possibly. But everything points to the fact that Zimmerman created the situation.

 

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Well, if you remember correctly my current approach and demeanor was inspired by the insipid bullshit I saw last year, of people constantly jumping the gun and buying into the propaganda. I wanted to throw it back in your faces, though I feel I have the moral high ground as in our system we have a presumption of innocence.

Everyone take note of how quickly another "personal responsibility" Rightie blames others for his own actions...LMAO at the hypocritical, two-faced personal responsibility Rightie.!

I am glad you are learning how fucking annoying it is for people to assume stuff right out the gate. That doesn't change my actual beliefs on the matter, but yes part of this exercise is to beat you guys into submission. Now the people that wouldn't shut the fuck up last year all take the "lets wait and see approach" much to my delight.

Oh Boo Hoo Hoo...someone get the poor ButtHurt baby a tissue.

Oh...and some salve.

We are allowed to judge the merits of the incident based on the proponderance of evidence and come to various conclusions. I assume trayvons guilt because there is physical evidence that zimmerman was beaten, bloodied, and on his back. Last I heard even the gunshot wound shows a trajectory of being shot from that angle. There is ample evidence that shows that trayvon beat the shit ouf of zimmerman, but there is zero evidence that shows zimmerman did anything criminal or wrong before the vicious incident.

Riiiiiiiight..."zero evidence Zimmerman did anything criminal." Martin is dead + shot by Zimmerman = Zimmerman is a criminal.

EOS.

Considering you can't make a single post without using the words "butt-hurt" or "asswipe" I'll be banning you from all future threads until you can learn to not be such a crybaby and troll.

Oh my...how will I get along if Dr Trollenstien bans me from his flame bait threads?

Poor Dr Trollenstien wants his little flame bait threads to be a place where he and his friends and NO ONE ELSE get to stoop to their level to respond.

 

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We know he left his vehicle and was told not to follow Trayvon. Why was he out of his car? There is also testimony that Zimmerman questioned Trayvon. It's not just speculation. There is plenty of proof that the criminal Zimmerman was stalking and harassing a boy out to buy candy.

But somehow Zimmerman is justified in killing the young boy and becomes your hero because he was too pathetic to defend himself without a gun.

Zimmerman had no business creating the situation.

actually the police had zimmerman follow him BEFORE they told him to turn around, which zimmerman did by all accounts as soon as they asked him. The police were on the line constantly asking zimmerman where trayvon had gone, where he was, etc.

Yes I believe people are heros when they put down vicious thugs that brutally beat someone, who at worst simply walked on the same sidewalk as they had.

Zimmerman did have business, it's a crime ridden area and there is nothing wrong with policing your community to make sure it's safe.

 

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Ha, he is totally right and you are just mad that you can't call him "hysterical" or any of the other names you call me.

Actually no, he is totally wrong. You simply want him to be right. Which makes you hysterical.

 

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And another point here, why is it that the burden of proof is on Trayvon's side to prove he acted in self defense? Is that same burden on Zimmerman?

Zimmerman was following Trayvon. It was not an unprovoked attack. Unjustified attack, possibly. But everything points to the fact that Zimmerman created the situation.

unprovoked and unjustified may as well mean the same thing in this context. Walking down the same sidewalk is not "Creating a situation" for someone to beat you to a pulp.

Trayvon got what he deserved and I am glad he is dead. The world is a better place with him being worm food. His blood being shed was a net gain.

 

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20.1 doesn't count as triple digits

Holy fuck, now that was funny!! I knew you had it in you.

 

[Timshel]

No, I stated that one does not need to be convicted of a crime to be a criminal. I stated that if there is evidence presented that shows someone committed a crime, then yes. In Martins case, the physical evidence shows that he beat the hell out of Zimmerman. It does not show that Zimmerman attacked him. Zimmerman had not broken any laws at the point the physical confrontation started. Given the wounds on him and the lack of such on Martin, it shows who beat who.

While it is obvious Zimmerman shot and killed Martin, it is not obvious nor has evidence been presented to show whether or not it was self defense or 2nd degree murder as he has been charged.

So keep on spinning.



Please list the evidence.



The fact that he beat the crap out of Zimmerman. How many times must that be explained to you?



The evidence does show that he beat the crap out of Zimmerman. Again, no wounds on Martin other than the gun shot. Nothing at all to suggest Zimmerman ever hit him.



and now we get back to your bullshit that you swallowed from the media.

1) Following Martin is not assault, it is not breaking the law in any fashion.
2) 'possibly attempting to apprehend Trayvon'... there is nothing to suggest that is what occurred. You are now tossing out accusations against Zimmerman without evidence to support such nonsense. Why is that? Because Zimmerman is hispanic? What other reason could you have for doing so?



1) If there was a history of break-ins in the neighborhood, then there was reason to follow him. There is not a law against doing so.
2) Someone following you is not justification for beating the crap out of them.

again, you are swallowing the media fed bullshit that began immediately following the shooting when the media was pretending Zimmerman was a white guy who shot a black guy blah blah blah.

Douchebag, learn the difference between assault and battery.

Zimmerman is not a cop and he had no valid reason to suspect Trayvon of a crime. Therefore, he had no valid reason to pursue or confront him.

There is proof that he attempted to stop Trayvon. His own claims indicate it as did the police dispatch call. Why was he outside of his car? Supposedly, Trayvon's gf heard Zimmerman attempting to question Trayvon.

 

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actually the police had zimmerman follow him BEFORE they told him to turn around, which zimmerman did by all accounts as soon as they asked him. The police were on the line constantly asking zimmerman where trayvon had gone, where he was, etc.

So you admit Zimmerman followed Martin.

So Martin saw he was being followed and turned to confront Zimmerman...a clear cut case of Martin invoking the SYG law.

Only for racists like Grind, a black man isn't entitled to the same rule of law others enjoy.

Yes I believe people are heros when they put down vicious thugs that brutally beat someone, who at worst simply walked on the same sidewalk as they had.

Now all you've got to do is PROVE Martin did beat Zimmerman and you're home free. At this point all you have is Zimmermans word.

Zimmerman did have business, it's a crime ridden area and there is nothing wrong with policing your community to make sure it's safe.

"Crime ridden"...oh the HYPERBOLE!

 

[Timshel]

unprovoked and unjustified may as well mean the same thing in this context. Walking down the same sidewalk is not "Creating a situation" for someone to beat you to a pulp.

Trayvon got what he deserved and I am glad he is dead. The world is a better place with him being worm food. His blood being shed was a net gain.

That's total bullshit. Zimmerman was not out for a stroll when Trayvon attacked him out of nowhere. The criminal Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon and likely attempted to confront him.

 

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Holy fuck, now that was funny!! I knew you had it in you.

And very nearly as funny as your little butthurt tantrum the other day.

 

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That's total bullshit. Zimmerman was not out for a stroll when Trayvon attacked him out of nowhere. The criminal Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon and likely attempted to confront him.

saying "hey what's up" is not grounds for being beaten to a pulp.

There is zero evidence zimmerman initiated any type of confrontation. There is plenty of evidence that trayvon jumped zimmerman and savagely beat him.

And according to zimmermans testimony he was walking back to his car when trayvon came out and attacked him. Zimmerman is recorded on the phone with saying to them that he had lost site of trayvon before being attacked.

It might help if you watch the video online that shows the path zimmerman took that night. It really can clarify some of this stuff up for you. Zimmerman was feet from his car when he was attacked.

 

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I will be validated and proven victorious when the hero zimmerman walks free. Zimmerman will walk free and the criminal trayvon will be in the ground where he belongs. Only a few more months until laughageddon slams into JPP.

 

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So Lincoln should have simply rolled over and pronounced slavery for all decent folk? To avoid nesscessary bloodshed?

You know better than this kind of generalization.

What generalization? The Civil War was the deadliest conflict in American history and that's a fact. And if you think the Civil War was only about slavery, go back to your history book.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Its been one year since a Hispanic Obama supporter, blew him away. It seem just like yesterday, Obama was using it as another photo opportunity.

Stop lying, you sniveling little neocon/teabagger coward.

 

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if anyone wants to respond to zappas on my behalf please do so, I am ignoring him as I simply can't be bothered with him.