global warming naysayers miss the point...again!

[Taichiliberal]

With the recent spate of intense snowstorms around the country (with the nation's capital currently in the spotlight)....the global warming deniers once again erroneously trumpet that these type of storms are PROOF that "global warming" doesn't exist. Thing is, increasing severe climate changes of all kinds is actually PART of the global warming phenomena...deniers just ASSUME that Warming is just like you turning up the heat in your house. That's not quite how it works.

Here's a site where a gentleman takes the time to put together the links that give a better explanation of what's going on.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...what-climate-scientists-have-been-predicting/

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Let ME explain what's going on....

The planet Earth is billions of years old, it has had extremely hot temperatures and extremely cold temperatures. There were times where the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere was much higher, and there have been times where it was much lower as well. The average mean temperature on Earth has risen approximately 1 degree in the past 100 years, and CO2 concentration has increased about 30%.

There are hundreds of scientists and environmental activists who are making considerably good money by basically terrorizing stupid people into believing man is causing the increased CO2, which is causing the effect of warming the planet, because CO2 is a "greenhouse gas." But we know from 7th grade science class, CO2 is only one of several "greenhouse gases" and not even the most prevalent one. Simple water vapor constitutes about 90% of the "greenhouse gases." And oh by the way, without greenhouse gases, we would not have the greenhouse effect, and no life could be sustained on the planet.

But these scientists and activist have so much at stake, and so much invested in this nonsense, they simply have to keep pushing it... even when their keystone evidence for the whole theory is found to be fraudulent. And they can rely and depend on empty-headed vapid little quislings like yourself, to do their bidding.

And that's the scoop on it Chicklet!

 

[Beefy]

Let ME explain what's going on....

The planet Earth is billions of years old

You're going to hell, its 6,000 years old if you have any respect for the bible.

it has had extremely hot temperatures and extremely cold temperatures. There were times where the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere was much higher, and there have been times where it was much lower as well. The average mean temperature on Earth has risen approximately 1 degree in the past 100 years, and CO2 concentration has increased about 30%.

30% in 100 years? Is that something that might associate with the fact that man has industrialized more than ever, in the history of the world, in the last 100 years?

There are hundreds of scientists and environmental activists who are making considerably good money by basically terrorizing stupid people into believing man is causing the increased CO2, which is causing the effect of warming the planet, because CO2 is a "greenhouse gas." But we know from 7th grade science class, CO2 is only one of several "greenhouse gases" and not even the most prevalent one. Simple water vapor constitutes about 90% of the "greenhouse gases." And oh by the way, without greenhouse gases, we would not have the greenhouse effect, and no life could be sustained on the planet.

But these scientists and activist have so much at stake, and so much invested in this nonsense, they simply have to keep pushing it... even when their keystone evidence for the whole theory is found to be fraudulent. And they can rely and depend on empty-headed vapid little quislings like yourself, to do their bidding.

And that's the scoop on it Chicklet!

Come on, to claim that man is not contributing to the carbon buildup that is going on is to plug your ears. Not the first time for you, not the third, or 150th, but still, if you don't think that the industrialization at the scale that its been going for generations and the scale at which it is accelerating is causing any climate problems at all, then what's the point? You're just taking the polar opposite, and looking like a jackass in the process.

Belching megatons of pollution into the air every single day is going to affect our enviornment and out climate. Why has this become a political football? Because of morons on the left who want to regulate everything, and reactionist sub morons on the right who allow them the elicit knee-jerk reactions from retards like you!!!

 

[USFREEDOM911]

With the recent spate of intense snowstorms around the country (with the nation's capital currently in the spotlight)....the global warming deniers once again erroneously trumpet that these type of storms are PROOF that "global warming" doesn't exist. Thing is, increasing severe climate changes of all kinds is actually PART of the global warming phenomena...deniers just ASSUME that Warming is just like you turning up the heat in your house. That's not quite how it works.

Here's a site where a gentleman takes the time to put together the links that give a better explanation of what's going on.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...what-climate-scientists-have-been-predicting/

How do you know that we're not starting another Ice Age??

 

[Topspin]

Fuck that, dems are getting really funny on this one. Next we'll hear that years of cooling are part of CLIMATE CHANGE too.

What kills me the most is, too many turbolibs have carbon footprints the size of Godzilla. To the cooler's, if you fly accross country or annually to Europe to get your travel bug on. STFU I don't want to hear from you.

 

[maineman]

global warming does not mean that there will not be temperatures below freezing in areas away from the equator. the fact remains that the surface temperature of the earth is rising... and when the globe is warmer, more water evaporates from the oceans, and when there is more water in the atmosphere, it turns into snow when the temperature drops below freezing. people who say that snow storms in northern (or southern) latitudes disproves global warming only serve to disprove their own assertions as to their own intelligence.

 

[evince]

Beefys a climate change guy now?

how cool

 

[Onceler]

This is actually one issue where everyone is wrong.

The right is never more hilarious as when a cold spell or snowstorm comes around, and they start chirping "some global warming!" like a group of parrots. It seems impossibly stupid that they could have such a limited understanding of the issue.

As far as those on the left who push for new emissions standards & other mandates: first, there is no way to ever conclusively prove that man contributes significantly to the warming we are seeing. Second, even if we could prove that, none of the measures being proposed, or even measures that would be 10x more extreme, would make an iota of difference.

 

[NOVA]

Seriously girls, the only real debate about global warming/climate change is about blaming man for any change....no one seriously claims there is no such thing as climate change...we've talked about the changes that took place over the last 10,000 years or so....so stop mis-stating the subject of debate.....its not about snowstorms or heat waves....

 

[leaningright]

Seriously girls, the only real debate about global warming/climate change is about blaming man for any change....no one seriously claims there is no such thing as climate change...we've talked about the changes that took place over the last 10,000 years or so....so stop mis-stating the subject of debate.....its not about snowstorms or heat waves....

I know, I know...but that still won't stop me from making jokes every time a snowstorm interferes with some GW conference...or snickering when some radio DJ makes a joke similar to it. It's just funny.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

You're going to hell, its 6,000 years old if you have any respect for the bible.

30% in 100 years? Is that something that might associate with the fact that man has industrialized more than ever, in the history of the world, in the last 100 years?

Come on, to claim that man is not contributing to the carbon buildup that is going on is to plug your ears. Not the first time for you, not the third, or 150th, but still, if you don't think that the industrialization at the scale that its been going for generations and the scale at which it is accelerating is causing any climate problems at all, then what's the point? You're just taking the polar opposite, and looking like a jackass in the process.

Belching megatons of pollution into the air every single day is going to affect our enviornment and out climate. Why has this become a political football? Because of morons on the left who want to regulate everything, and reactionist sub morons on the right who allow them the elicit knee-jerk reactions from retards like you!!!

I am all for finding each and every way possible to reduce pollution. That said, the fear mongering from the left on 'Man is a causin the destruction of the world' is nothing more than a money grab. They want billions more pumped into their bogus studies...

Bottom line... REAL Scientists release their data so that it can actually be scrutinized. They do not hide the data and say 'just trust us'.

The so called 'scientists' leading the charge on AGW have done far more harm to the environment than anyone. Because by hiding their data and in some cases appearing to falsify the data, they provide ammunition to their opponents to use against even legitimate environmental concerns.

The extreme environmentalists are the same way. They block our ability to drill our own oil and nat gas... which is stupid when you think about it. Not only from the economic side (we keeps the jobs and money HERE, rather than sending it to another country), but also from the environmental side. WE control the environmental regulations of oil and nat gas production when it is produced HERE. We have little to no control when it is produced elsewhere. So what sense does it make to not drill? As long as we are using oil and nat gas... it makes sense for us to produce it.

Add in the fact that if we produce it HERE, we can also tax it here and use the tax revenues to fund alt/clean energy R&D.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

global warming does not mean that there will not be temperatures below freezing in areas away from the equator. the fact remains that the surface temperature of the earth is rising... and when the globe is warmer, more water evaporates from the oceans, and when there is more water in the atmosphere, it turns into snow when the temperature drops below freezing. people who say that snow storms in northern (or southern) latitudes disproves global warming only serve to disprove their own assertions as to their own intelligence.

global cooling does not mean that there will not be temperatures above freezing in areas closer from the equator. the fact remains that the surface temperature of the earth is stable, in worldly terms... and when the globe is cooler, less water evaporates from the oceans, and when there is less water in the atmosphere, it does not turn into snow when the temperature rises above freezing. people who say that warm weather, in northern (or southern) latitudes disproves global cooling only serve to disprove their own assertions as to their own intelligence.

 

[Cypress]

With the recent spate of intense snowstorms around the country (with the nation's capital currently in the spotlight)....the global warming deniers once again erroneously trumpet that these type of storms are PROOF that "global warming" doesn't exist. Thing is, increasing severe climate changes of all kinds is actually PART of the global warming phenomena...deniers just ASSUME that Warming is just like you turning up the heat in your house. That's not quite how it works.

Here's a site where a gentleman takes the time to put together the links that give a better explanation of what's going on.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...what-climate-scientists-have-been-predicting/

I think it's a combination of scientific ignorance, and also just sheer emotion on the part of wingnuts. As with their Iraq war, they appear to be unable to publicly admit they were wrong. I don't know why they do that. I've always suspected that they are insecure in themselves, and admitting they were wrong to liberals would be some kind of traumatic experience for them. But that's up to psychologists to explain

NASA Website:

2009: Second Warmest Year on Record; End of Warmest Decade
01.21.10

2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis, conducted by the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the warmest year since modern records began in 1880.

Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade -- due to strong cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean -- 2009 saw a return to near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of a degree cooler than 2005, the warmest year on record, and tied with a cluster of other years -- 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 -- as the second warmest year since recordkeeping began

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/temp-analysis-2009.html

 

[Sammy Jankis]

With the recent spate of intense snowstorms around the country (with the nation's capital currently in the spotlight)....the global warming deniers once again erroneously trumpet that these type of storms are PROOF that "global warming" doesn't exist. Thing is, increasing severe climate changes of all kinds is actually PART of the global warming phenomena...deniers just ASSUME that Warming is just like you turning up the heat in your house. That's not quite how it works.

Here's a site where a gentleman takes the time to put together the links that give a better explanation of what's going on.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...what-climate-scientists-have-been-predicting/

Is fake data and a conspiracy to suppress dissent part of the global warming phenomenon?

 

[Topspin]

The huge probleme for the turbo-lib set, even if warming is occuring thier end of the world or huge catastropy predictions are laughable.

According to Gore a decade ago we should all be done for already right?

 

[Damocles]

With the recent spate of intense snowstorms around the country (with the nation's capital currently in the spotlight)....the global warming deniers once again erroneously trumpet that these type of storms are PROOF that "global warming" doesn't exist. Thing is, increasing severe climate changes of all kinds is actually PART of the global warming phenomena...deniers just ASSUME that Warming is just like you turning up the heat in your house. That's not quite how it works.

Here's a site where a gentleman takes the time to put together the links that give a better explanation of what's going on.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...what-climate-scientists-have-been-predicting/

Please. The Deniers use the fact that the data was "massaged", wasn't "hacked", and is being found inaccurate by more and more scientists to say, "You've been caught."

It isn't that there are snow storms, it's the fact that they lied that hurts the climate change message.

 

[Damocles]

This is actually one issue where everyone is wrong.

The right is never more hilarious as when a cold spell or snowstorm comes around, and they start chirping "some global warming!" like a group of parrots. It seems impossibly stupid that they could have such a limited understanding of the issue.

As far as those on the left who push for new emissions standards & other mandates: first, there is no way to ever conclusively prove that man contributes significantly to the warming we are seeing. Second, even if we could prove that, none of the measures being proposed, or even measures that would be 10x more extreme, would make an iota of difference.

Yes.

 

[Cypress]

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Global warming may be caused by
underwater volcanoes
(Which I've been saying for years)


8 Dec 08 – A study by Gilbert Compo and Prashant Sardeshmukh of the University of Colorado and NOAA, and presented in the scientific journal Climate Dynamics, maintains that all of the greenhouse gases dumped into the atmosphere by humans over the last 46 years haven't affected land temperatures at all.

“The rise in land temperatures, the study states, can be tied directly to increased heat and humidity coming from warmer oceans, which in turn, the study admits, may be caused solely by natural forces.

“But if rising land temperatures are caused by rising ocean temperatures, what's causing the earth's seas to heat up?

Although admitting that it could be man-made, the study said that it could also be due to increased sun activity, underwater volcanoes or simply the earth's regular patterns.

"Although not a focus of this study," write Compo and Sardeshmukh, "the degree to which the oceans themselves have recently warmed due to increased GHG, other anthropogenic, natural solar and volcanic forcings, or internal multi-decadal climate variations is a matter of active investigation."

"A role for natural causes of at least some of the recent oceanic warming should not be ruled out."

 

[Cypress]


8 Dec 08 – A study by Gilbert Compo and Prashant Sardeshmukh of the University of Colorado and NOAA, and presented in the scientific journal Climate Dynamics, maintains that all of the greenhouse gases dumped into the atmosphere by humans over the last 46 years haven't affected land temperatures at all.

......

"A role for natural causes of at least some of the recent oceanic warming should not be ruled out."

Here's the problem when you post stuff you found from a rightwing blog in the hopes you can pass your bullshit off.

Somebody who is literate in science might actually go to a the actual website from the actual institute that did the study, and prove that you are misleading.

you've been lied to by the climate denialists....routinely and repeatedly. If you want to get getting your "science" information from rightwing blogs, fine. You also were easily fooled into supporting the bogus Iraq War.

I'm not as easily fooled, or as scientifically illiterate as you.

“This paper does not dispute that man-made greenhouse gases are causing the climate to change. However, it does show that the mechanisms of land warming may be different than commonly believed,” said study co-author Prashant Sardeshmukh.

http://cires.colorado.edu/news/press/2008/oceanPredictorWarming.html