Fatal shooting at Denver screening of The Dark Knight Rises

why? A person could kill far more with a home made bomb than an assault rifle. Should we ban all ingredients for the bombs too? Have a government employee monitor the use of those materials perhaps?

The moronic need to blame the gun is astounding. It was the person. Not the gun. Period.

Well, I would imagine that after the bombing by McVeigh that there were much more strict controls on fertilisers like ammonium nitrate and detonators. Why would any private citizen need large quantities of fertilisers and indeed any detonators?
 
Well, I would imagine that after the bombing by McVeigh that there were much more strict controls on fertilisers like ammonium nitrate and detonators. Why would any private citizen need large quantities of fertilisers and indeed any detonators?
generations of oppression has really rendered your mind numbed to the boots on your face, haven't they?
 
Assault weapons should only be allowed to kept at approved shooting ranges, any kept on private premises should be confiscated subject to an amnesty first.

Hey Tom, go to this link. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...YOm8ASAzIGAAg&ved=0CEIQ1QIoAw&biw=768&bih=928 If I did it right and it takes you to the correct place, the picture in the upper right is of a Ruger 10/22. This is exactly what mine looks like. Wooden stock, black matte finish, etc. I have owned one of these since I was in elementary school. I use it to hunt squirrels and to dispatch varmints that frequent my yard...no calling The Call of the Wild Man here. The gun is very accurate, grouping less than an inch at 50 yards. When I was younger I could hit a quarter flipped up in the air three or four times out of five using this weapon.

Now look at the progression of the pictures showing the various attachments and modifications one can do to this rifle. At what point does it become an 'assault weapon' and what is to stop the lawmakers who don't know any better to say that this weapon I have essentially grown up with is going to be included under a ban of 'assault weapons'?
 
In patriarichal societies it was men starting the stupid wars in the first place, Tom. There are some women who wish to take up arms, but they are not allowed.

I am just wondering how many men were cowering in the trenches of Flanders thinking just how lucky they were that they lived in a patriarchal society? I can't speak for the US but many men went to sign up rather than be declared cowards and shown the white feather, mostly by women.

http://greatwarfiction.wordpress.co...nd-recruitment-at-the-start-of-the-great-war/
 
There have been many changes to gun laws down the years, I don't remember that the second amendment was also changed to allow those to be enacted.

Infringing Constitutional rights through bad law is never right just because the idiots in DC pass it. The SCOTUS has repeatedly upheld the private citizen right to own and bear arms regardless of your disdain for the freedom of others. You don't get to choose for me.
 
Oh for crying out loud - who dictated the terms of this culture? MEN. Quit whining, Tom.

So what about Jean Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir who supported Stalin, Mao and provided succour and intellectual credibility to Pol Pot et al. Was that all about men as well?
 
So what about Jean Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir who supported Stalin, Mao and provided succour and intellectual credibility to Pol Pot et al. Was that all about men as well?

What about them? I'm addressing you and your need to promote the idea that men are the real victims of oppression.
 
Thanks for proving my point. So-called responsible gun owners taking advantage of a loophole, which it is, to sell weapons without first verifying the buyer should have the weapon.

As far as providing information, you do it every day at the driver's license office. Why not? Shouldn't you be required to do the same thing to buy a gun?

Since the regulations are specifically for gun dealers, and there is no regulation for private sales, how can there be a loophole?

I provide that information to a gov't agency. I also provide that to my bank or employers. But I don't just hand it out to strangers.

The responsible gun owners, that you seem so be so fond of denigrating, are following the letter of the law. They are not exploiting a loophole. They are not regulated.

When you renew your drivers licence, do you take a physical and get a medical card? No? People with a CDL are required to do that. Are you exploiting a loophole?
 
What about them? I'm addressing you and your need to promote the idea that men are the real victims of oppression.

No that is not what I am trying to say at all, but the message just seems to get lost in the fog of war. For a few at the top of the pyramid everything was great but for the majority of men life, certainly until fairly recent times, was pretty shit.
 
No, the argument is that there are no regulations on private sales, so there is no loophole.

No checks on the buyer = loophole. Just because it's done on purpose doesn't mean it isn't a loophole. Do nutjobs manage to get guns that way, thus slipping through the cracks? Yes they do. Aka, loophole.
 
No that is not what I am trying to say at all, but the message just seems to get lost in the fog of war. For a few at the top of the pyramid everything was great but for the majority of men life, certainly until fairly recent times, was pretty shit.

So the lives of men have been shit compared to women because of the draft. That's what you're trying to say?
 
Hey Tom, go to this link. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...YOm8ASAzIGAAg&ved=0CEIQ1QIoAw&biw=768&bih=928 If I did it right and it takes you to the correct place, the picture in the upper right is of a Ruger 10/22. This is exactly what mine looks like. Wooden stock, black matte finish, etc. I have owned one of these since I was in elementary school. I use it to hunt squirrels and to dispatch varmints that frequent my yard...no calling The Call of the Wild Man here. The gun is very accurate, grouping less than an inch at 50 yards. When I was younger I could hit a quarter flipped up in the air three or four times out of five using this weapon.

Now look at the progression of the pictures showing the various attachments and modifications one can do to this rifle. At what point does it become an 'assault weapon' and what is to stop the lawmakers who don't know any better to say that this weapon I have essentially grown up with is going to be included under a ban of 'assault weapons'?

The Ruger 10/22 is the best semi-auto .22 on the market. I have had one for years and it is still the gun I grab when the dogs are raising hell or my hound sounds like she is in trouble.
 
So the lives of men have been shit compared to women because of the draft. That's what you're trying to say?

That and the fact that many worked all their lives from age 15 to 65 only to drop dead shortly after retiring because their bodies were worn out from physical labour.
 
A bit of background on oath-man's hero (below). It certainly sheds some light on our own oath-man and his colourful imagination:

Elmer Stewart Rhodes

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With all the paranoia he peddles to the conspiracy class, it’s hard to believe Stewart Rhodes once had a career shooting straight for the stratosphere.

But since retiring from the Army and in 2009 starting the Oath Keepers — a defiant “Patriot” organization of active military and police personnel who vow to uphold their oaths to the U.S. Constitution against all enemies, foreign, domestic and imagined — the Yale-educated lawyer has emerged as one of the primary intellectual fountainheads of the antigovernment right.

Under the defiant banner of “Not on our watch,” Rhodes has recruited thousands of politically disaffected men and women into the Oath Keepers. He has plied them with ideas of a tyrannical “New World Order” looming on the horizon, only to dismiss those worries as mere theoretical concerns when it is convenient to do so — typically, when trying to paint the group as mainstream in discussions with reporters. It’s doublespeak at its finest.

For example, he told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews that he wasn’t animated by conspiracy theories or fears.

But when speaking to radio conspiracist Alex Jones (see profile above), Rhodes touted the benefits of his new organization by playing to one of Jones’ key worries. “We know that if the day should come where a full-blown dictatorship would come, or tyranny … it can happen [only] if those men, our brothers in arms, go along and comply with unconstitutional, unlawful orders. … Imagine if we focus on the police and military. Game over for the New World Order,” Rhodes said.

A practicing attorney in Nevada, Rhodes left his legal practice in 2010 to move to the Big Sky State. He wasted no time involving himself with the growing local Patriot movement, which has been drawn to Montana for what constitutionalist preacher Chuck Baldwin (see profile above) has called “the Alamo of the 21st Century” — a last stand against a perceived dismantling of American freedoms.

The core of the Oath Keepers is its 10 “Orders We Will Not Obey.” The orders relate directly to Patriot fears of a government conspiracy — alleged plans to impose martial law, shuttle Americans into concentration camps and so on. Rhodes has warned that the government is teetering on the brink and has encouraged residents in Flathead County, Mont., to begin forming citizen militias.

“It’s not that the iceberg is coming. … We already hit the iceberg,” Rhodes was quoted saying during a speech after arriving in Montana. And how does that play out in one of the Ivy League’s most conspiratorial minds? He put it quite simply: “The Titanic is going down.”

Does this then mean that you're also aligned with women who have been convicted of child molestation and/or child rape?
 
The Ruger 10/22 is the best semi-auto .22 on the market. I have had one for years and it is still the gun I grab when the dogs are raising hell or my hound sounds like she is in trouble.

I have no problem with people owning weapons for hunting or self defence, I just find it very hard to understand why anyone wants enough weapons to equip a small army.
 
That and the fact that many worked all their lives from age 15 to 65 only to drop dead shortly after retiring because their bodies were worn out from physical labour.

You actually believe men are more oppressed than women and this ^ is the stuff on which you base that assertion?
 
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