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Again, the "gun show loophole" is a misnomer. There is no loophole.

As for the lack of background checks, do you really want the people you have described as irresponsible or worse, having access to background check information? At the very least it would mean giving your full name, driver's licence number and social security number to a stranger.

Thanks for proving my point. So-called responsible gun owners taking advantage of a loophole, which it is, to sell weapons without first verifying the buyer should have the weapon.

As far as providing information, you do it every day at the driver's license office. Why not? Shouldn't you be required to do the same thing to buy a gun?
 
Thanks for proving my point. So-called responsible gun owners taking advantage of a loophole, which it is, to sell weapons without first verifying the buyer should have the weapon.

As far as providing information, you do it every day at the driver's license office. Why not? Shouldn't you be required to do the same thing to buy a gun?

The argument is that since this was done purposely, it isn't a loophole. Dur.
 
yes, because authority tends to harbor or acquire an overwhelming desire to control people with the power they've been entrusted with.

So you'd rather we entrust that authority to the States? Huh...I've already shown you the founding fathers, some of whom you worship, didn't want that.

the federal government should be forced to remain within the confines of the constitution.

They already are. Just not the "confines of the constitution" you agree with.
 
Thanks for proving my point. So-called responsible gun owners taking advantage of a loophole, which it is, to sell weapons without first verifying the buyer should have the weapon.

As far as providing information, you do it every day at the driver's license office. Why not? Shouldn't you be required to do the same thing to buy a gun?
and vote?
 
suffragettes... I would think someone so knowledgeable on them would at least have the decency to spell their name correctly.

Shut up ns go sit in the corner, my iPad makes corrections for me assswipe and I don't always catch them, nice try anal Andy.
 
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and vote?

Sure. Here's what you guys don't, or won't understand. It's not that we want people unqualified to vote it's that we don't want neo-Jim Crow laws pushed three months before an election that attempt to disenfranchise certain groups and prevent those legally with the right to vote from doing so.

Three years ago I was the victim of such disenfranchisement and it took me until a month ago to clear my name and prove I'm an eligible voter. And I had a lot more resources to help me than most people.
 
Thanks for proving my point. So-called responsible gun owners taking advantage of a loophole, which it is, to sell weapons without first verifying the buyer should have the weapon.

As far as providing information, you do it every day at the driver's license office. Why not? Shouldn't you be required to do the same thing to buy a gun?

why do you want to disenfranchise the minorities? Too many of them don't have ID's. Why can't they have guns too? Why do you hate black people?
 
that is not the opinion of sane people, it's the opinion of idiotic people. It is completely implausible that the founding fathers of this country, who had just shed themselves of a tyrannical central government and military that was bent on oppressing them, would come close to any conception that they would then create an amendment that restricted their new central government (one that was not to be completely trusted) from restricting the arms of a new military that could also become oppressive, much like the one they just defeated.

To think the above is pure lunacy and should require any idiot thinking such nonsense to be forced in to grade school again.

How convenient for you that you've ignored the second part where he says that the Founding Fathers knew from the outset that the Constitution is a living document and therefore changes with the times. It is not something that is preserved in aspic except by those that refuse to accept any change in the same way that Jehovah Witnesses only accept the literal truth of the Bible and will not allow blood transfusions.
 
The the philophosical waxing does not change the fact that women have never had the same rights as men. If you look to the Bible, the Creator didn't give us the same rights, and men in their patriarichal societies have used this to oppress women and use them chattel. We are still referred to as the weaker sex.

Now, I don't know what leads some men to believe the way they do, but some women have decided they are men's equal and they will not be oppressed any longer.

Thanks for the discussion, but ladies,we are fooling ourselves if we think we can enlighten some people.
 
How convenient for you that you've ignored the second part where he says that the Founding Fathers knew from the outset that the Constitution is a living document and therefore changes with the times. It is not something that is preserved in aspic except by those that refuse to accept any change in the same way that Jehovah Witnesses only accept the literal truth of the Bible and will not allow blood transfusions.

Why yes, the founder did indeed realize that the Constitution would arise the need to be modified with the times as we went along...Do you know how they envisioned this being done? THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS!
 
The the philophosical waxing does not change the fact that women have never had the same rights as men. If you look to the Bible, the Creator didn't give us the same rights, and men in their patriarichal societies have used this to oppress women and use them chattel. We are still referred to as the weaker sex.

Now, I don't know what leads some men to believe the way they do, but some women have decided they are men's equal and they will not be oppressed any longer.

Thanks for the discussion, but ladies,we are fooling ourselves if we think we can enlighten some people.

Enlightening cavemen was never my intention. I just enjoy putting the truth out, then watching the squirming. :D
 
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