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Rana said:
Women were second class citizens whose only rights were those afforded them by the husbands, women could own property in the new world, but were greatly limited, by law.
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Again, that doesn't change that those specific rights were still there for them. You are conflating laws that limited women with whether they could bear arms or speak out, participate in religion. Nor were women the only people so limited. As previously stated, the reality was even most "white men" couldn't vote in the burgeoning nation.


Annie Oakley was the first renowned female to have gun because of he expansion into the West, where many old convention were ignored because of the hostile nature of the land, she was for entertainment purposes, many women probably woke up to the fact, hey, I can own a gun too, after that.
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Rubbish, you can view many images of females in the West who were armed. Settlers were armed, women, children, men. I only brought up Annie Oakley as she was famous for it, and a better shot than most men.

You kid yourself if you think the rights afforded to white males were enjoyed by women, they had to fight or each and every right they enjoyed.
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Again, you are misunderstanding what I am stating. I believe purposefully.

There are specific rights mentioned, those were recognized for women as well as men. The fight for the vote, against laws that allowed men to beat them, etc. ... These are the things you are talking about, and things which I do not deny, but they are not among any of those specific delineated and enumerated rights. Women were allowed to own and bear arms, they were allowed to own property, they did have a right not to be searched without cause, they did have a right not to be forced to house soldiers, they did have a right to speak, they did have a right to congregate, they did have a right to petition government...

Those rights were afforded women.

We are speaking of two different subjects. You are saying that women had no rights at all because there was unequal laws. I am saying that regardless of the historic battle for equal treatment under the law they still certainly had these specific rights, there are myriad examples in history.
 
Damo why don't you open up a Guns & Misogyny board? This board seems to be all guns and all womun-hatin lately, with even you joining in your usual passive-aggressive manner.

If you don't want the bitches here we can all leave. It's been discussed.

Let us know!

And spare me your fucking whining about how "all I was doing" all you were doing was joining in the woman-bashing that has become a daily, hourly event on this board.

All Guns, All Womun-hatin, All The Time - JPP.
 
Darla said:
Damo why don't you open up a Guns & Misogyny board? This board seems to be all guns and all womun-hatin lately, with even you joining in your usual passive-aggressive manner.

If you don't want the bitches here we can all leave. It's been discussed.

Let us know!

And spare me your fucking whining about how "all I was doing" all you were doing was joining in the woman-bashing that has become a daily, hourly event on this board.

All Guns, All Womun-hatin, All The Time - JPP.
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Not all the gun buffs are women haters, whether that matters or not.
 
Lowaicue said:
From whence comes that right?
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That's what I've been trying to ascertain. People talk about inalienable rights and from what I've seen all those rights have been delineated by man. If one wants to say their Creator gave them those rights and assuming, for argument's sake, there is a Creator where are those rights noted?

Maybe someone can enlighten me. Until then I have to get a replacement spring for my garage door. Earlier this morning I was in my office above the garage and heard a LOUD noise. After checking I found out the garage door spring had sprung under full tension. Luckily, it didn't hit my baby car. 74 MG Midget.jpg. It would have impaled it. :(

And that's my day, so far.
 
apple0154 said:
That's what I've been trying to ascertain. People talk about inalienable rights and from what I've seen all those rights have been delineated by man. If one wants to say their Creator gave them those rights and assuming, for argument's sake, there is a Creator where are those rights noted?

Maybe someone can enlighten me. Until then I have to get a replacement spring for my garage door. Earlier this morning I was in my office above the garage and heard a LOUD noise. After checking I found out the garage door spring had sprung under full tension. Luckily, it didn't hit my baby car. View attachment 1724. It would have impaled it. :(

And that's my day, so far.
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Nice Midget. I loved those little things.
 
Lowaicue said:
Ipso facto you have no rights.
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:rolleyes:

Are you really this simple? Whether one is created by evolution and chance or by an Entity these rights exist. Whether you are capable of defending them may be in question, but a reasoning mind can understand a distinction.

Do we allow the government to infringe on these or not? This is the main question of a society. In this one, the forefathers took steps to recognize them and protect them, in other societies their governments infringe on them. The rights still exist even if somebody uses the force of government to infringe on the right.
 
Darla said:
Damo why don't you open up a Guns & Misogyny board? This board seems to be all guns and all womun-hatin lately, with even you joining in your usual passive-aggressive manner.

If you don't want the bitches here we can all leave. It's been discussed.

Let us know!

And spare me your fucking whining about how "all I was doing" all you were doing was joining in the woman-bashing that has become a daily, hourly event on this board.

All Guns, All Womun-hatin, All The Time - JPP.
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The Darlak speaks!



 
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Rana said:
Yes, we did protest, but we did not have the right to do so, many were jailed, shunned or were put to death for their protests. I am surprised you do not know the history of the sufferettes, but sadly, most people don't.
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suffragettes... I would think someone so knowledgeable on them would at least have the decency to spell their name correctly.
 
Darla said:
Damo why don't you open up a Guns & Misogyny board? This board seems to be all guns and all womun-hatin lately, with even you joining in your usual passive-aggressive manner.

If you don't want the bitches here we can all leave. It's been discussed.

Let us know!

And spare me your fucking whining about how "all I was doing" all you were doing was joining in the woman-bashing that has become a daily, hourly event on this board.

All Guns, All Womun-hatin, All The Time - JPP.
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Just wow... An attempt at using scorch and burn scare tactics to shut up a conversation about ideas. I anticipated a bit more than this from you, Darla. You are both smarter and stronger than this weak attempt to silence others.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I found this in Yahoo Answers and it pretty much sums up how sane people view the subject.

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120721030237AAkbeaI
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Actually that is how people who don't understand the Constitution view the subject. It is also how the people who believe in no personal responsibility view it. It is also how the anti-gun nut sees it.

To all but the ignorant, deranged and agenda-driven, the Founders' intent with regard to the 2nd Amendment is pretty clear. They were referring specifically to a well-armed and well-regulated militia whose intent was to protect a fledgling country from the European powers of the era.
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The stupidity of the above should have stopped you from reading further. Yet you didn't. That is quite telling.

They NEVER envisioned future technologies, let alone the rising up of demented gun lovers hell-bent on shooting anything that moves.
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The bolded shows just how demented the author of your piece was. People who believe in the 2nd Amendments preservation do not go around shooting anything that moves. It is typically the anti-gun nuts who see things this way...shockingly the only others that do are the insane people.
 
WinterBorn said:
Not all the gun buffs are women haters, whether that matters or not.
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sorry, but if you disagree with Darla, you are hence forth a woman hater. She proclaims it, it is so. You must agree with Dearest little Darla on everything or you hate women. Similar to the Obama nuts proclaiming that any dissent from dear leader is due to racism.
 
Damocles said:
Just wow... An attempt at using scorch and burn scare tactics to shut up a conversation about ideas. I anticipated a bit more than this from you, Darla. You are both smarter and stronger than this weak attempt to silence others.
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I used to think she was too. But lately she has displayed the polar opposite.
 
Superfreak said:
sorry, but if you disagree with Darla, you are hence forth a woman hater. She proclaims it, it is so. You must agree with Dearest little Darla on everything or you hate women. Similar to the Obama nuts proclaiming that any dissent from dear leader is due to racism.
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Hmm, then I guess, by that criteria, I will be called a woman hater. Damn shame.
 
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