Resisting arrest doesn’t give the government any right to kill you! Only fascist believe that !
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Matt Dillon
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In no way, I mean no way, could you be a lawyer.
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Fascism, political ideology and mass movement that dominated central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and was characterized by extreme militant nationalism, hatred of communism and socialism, contempt for democracy, and belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites.
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Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Wait, has Jarod been Fakey Jakey the whole time?
Berry similarious.
It does if you assault a LEO with a deadly weapon. No one shot her when she refused to get out of the car. No one shot her when she put her car in reverse . But when she decided to put her car in forward and spun her wheels and accelerated straight into a LEO she got shot. I wish she had not decided to do that but the facts are she did and now she is dead.
Those are the facts and you know it. All your pretending otherwise is just dumb and trolling. I ashed you to find where I said anyone should get shot just for not following government LEO orders. Have you done that yet? If you can't find me saying that you need to apologize if you are a man.
No evidence that he was ever hit.
He placed himself in danger and then will claim “I was in danger” to justify shooting her.
Her ramming other vehicles so he puts two more shots in her head so she’s TOTALLY out of control?
What fucking alternative universe do you live in?
Now that's BS, even the Mayor notes that he was injured. He says it was "no worse than hitting your hip on the refrigerator" but he certainly recognizes the guy was hit.
It's his job to place himself in danger, he's in law enforcement.
No, her driving her vehicle into people. He puts two more shots to ensure she isn't just turning around and coming back at 90 MPH. She's already demonstrated her willingness to hit law enforcement with her car, leaving her armed and dangerous is not "procedure". If I shot and winged you, barely injured you (like Trump's ear), then ran past you, just because I passed you and was running does not mean you (as a law enforcement agent/officer) would let me go because you were no longer "in danger". That's idiotic.
Not the one you reside in. I tend to stand in reality squarely. I also understand the subjective nature of the idea of the "split second" and the judgement we use which is "what did he believe" not the objective... It's been explained several times. Now, again. It's possible that during the investigation he'll say the gun went off the first time in error and two more times he was covering up the sound of his own poo filling his pants and it won't be justified.. but I doubt that.
Liar
Your legal analysis is correct. I disagree with your version of the facts.
What facts do you disagree with? And we're still waiting for those links we asked for.... to your original allegations...
She Comply with what the officers told her to do.... She didn't flee very well because she hit him....justified... The minute she put that car into gear and hit the gas.She was threatening...
You have no actual facts.
Any smart receptionist would acknowledge that to be true.
Liar
Jarod: "I am not a lawyer in real life but I play one on an obscure political board".
christiefan915
Catalyst
It wasn't a lawful order. ICE isn't permitted to stop people for traffic violations. She probably knew that, and knew it was within her rights to ignore him.
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ICE agents cannot stop individuals solely for traffic violations; they must have reasonable suspicion that someone lacks lawful immigration status to justify a stop. Their authority is limited compared to local police, and they typically need a warrant supported by probable cause for vehicle stops.
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christiefan915
Catalyst
"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant. On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT."
christiefan915
Catalyst
"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant. On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT."