Explosions Rip Through Catholic Churches: Islamic Radicals Claim Responsibility

Return of Dune said:
Not my turn to edumacate you, but you could look at Ireland, the Spanish Inquisition, and the crusades (including both Gulf Wars) for examples of Christians murdering.
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Nonsense. None of the above was motivated by Christian doctrine. Even the crusades weree an invention of Catholic doctrine.
David Koresh believed he was Jesus and therefore the only man who gets to have sex with the women in the compound. Yes, he claimed to be a christian. No, nothing within christian doctrine supports any of his actions.
 
Return of Dune said:
When are the righties going to admit that religious extremists from any religion are responsible for heinous, proliffic violence?
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But only in the case of Muslims, are they adhering to their respective doctrines. The Christian Crusades, the Holy Roman empire had nothing to do with biblical doctrine. Nothing within the bible supports their actions. On the other hand, the Islamic Caliphates that existed from 632 - 1924 were according to Islamic doctrine. The waging of Jihad to expand, maintain and defend the Islamic empire was all done according to Islamic doctrine.
 
dixon76710 said:
Nonsense. None of the above was motivated by Christian doctrine. Even the crusades weree an invention of Catholic doctrine.
David Koresh believed he was Jesus and therefore the only man who gets to have sex with the women in the compound. Yes, he claimed to be a christian. No, nothing within christian doctrine supports any of his actions.
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Did I say "christian doctrine? I said "religious extremists".
 
dixon76710 said:
But only in the case of Muslims, are they adhering to their respective doctrines. The Christian Crusades, the Holy Roman empire had nothing to do with biblical doctrine. Nothing within the bible supports their actions. On the other hand, the Islamic Caliphates that existed from 632 - 1924 were according to Islamic doctrine. The waging of Jihad to expand, maintain and defend the Islamic empire was all done according to Islamic doctrine.
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Bullshit a lot of it was bible thump or die!
 
dixon76710 said:
Yes, I know. I did, and you have no response.
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No one disagrees with you, hence no response is needed.
Nice attempt to move the goalposts, but a fail nonetheless, since the topic is not christian doctrine, but rather religious extremists.
 
Return of Dune said:
No one disagrees with you, hence no response is needed.
Nice attempt to move the goalposts, but a fail nonetheless, since the topic is not christian doctrine, but rather religious extremists.
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No, just my mistake in presuming you were trying to make a point, relevant to the post of mine YOU chose to respond to.
 
Return of Dune said:
You are a moron aren't you? BushII was a born again christian. Gulf War II is no different than any of the crusades, christians invading muslim countries and killing muslims. It has been going on for millenia now. Wake the fuck up.
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American soldiers do not murder innocents in the name of Jesus. American soldiers carry out the mission given to them by their Generals.

Muslims murder people in the name of Mohammed and Islam.

My God, no one can be this dumb unless it's on purpose.
 
Alias said:
American soldiers do not murder innocents in the name of Jesus. American soldiers carry out the mission given to them by their Generals.

Muslims murder people in the name of Mohammed and Islam.

My God, no one can be this dumb unless it's on purpose.
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People of almost every faith have warped their religion for a violent agenda, since the beginning of time. It's not exclusive to Islam.
 
Return of Dune said:
Did I say "christian doctrine? I said "religious extremists".
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You're playing games and manipulating. Show us the Christian doctrine that teaches terrorism. I can show you plenty of violent Islamic verses. Show us some violence in the bible to spread Christianity like the violence in the Koran to spread Islam.
 
Alias said:
You're playing games and manipulating. Show us the Christian doctrine that teaches terrorism. I can show you plenty of violent Islamic verses. Show us some violence in the bible to spread Christianity like the violence in the Koran to spread Islam.
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Keep spouting your bullshit if it makes you feel better, but more people have been killed by Christians than any other religion, it is just a fact.

Bush II alone was responsible for AT LEAST 104,000 deaths.
 
The Dude said:
My point is klansman and Jesus freaks make up thier own history.
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Yeah, thats my point. Cant really blame a religion for some shit imagined in some guys head, even if he claims to be a christian.

The Dude said:
Same shit as Muslims
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I dont doubt that some Muslims make up shit in their heads as well, But I am speaking instead of Muslims who instead adhere to a strict, literal interpretation of their doctrine that commands them to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers until "religion is ONLY for allah"
 
dixon76710 said:
Yeah, thats my point. Cant really blame a religion for some shit imagined in some guys head, even if he claims to be a christian.



I dont doubt that some Muslims make up shit in their heads as well, But I am speaking instead of Muslims who instead adhere to a strict, literal interpretation of their doctrine that commands them to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers until "religion is ONLY for allah"
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Actualy a strict interpretation DOES NOT command those things but rather the opposite.
Why don't you try facts.
 
Onceler said:
People of almost every faith have warped their religion for a violent agenda, since the beginning of time. It's not exclusive to Islam.
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The concern is not with Muslims who have "warped" their religion but instead with those who adhere to a strict, literal interpretation of their doctrine. Many Muslims view the first four caliphs to be the rightly guided Caliphs. Those who most accurately followed the dictates of Islamic doctrine. Within 80 years of Muhammads death, the Muslims were waging Jihad in Spain in the west and Afghanistan in the East. Expanding the political rule of Islam over all inhabitants, ACCORDING to Islamic doctrine.
 
dixon76710 said:
The concern is not with Muslims who have "warped" their religion but instead with those who adhere to a strict, literal interpretation of their doctrine. Many Muslims view the first four caliphs to be the rightly guided Caliphs. Those who most accurately followed the dictates of Islamic doctrine. Within 80 years of Muhammads death, the Muslims were waging Jihad in Spain in the west and Afghanistan in the East. Expanding the political rule of Islam over all inhabitants, ACCORDING to Islamic doctrine.
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It's a perversion of doctrine, it isn't doctrine. Some violence is advocated in the Bible, as well, but the vast majority of text contradicts those passages, so the vast majority of followers understand that Christianity is a non-violent religion. Just as the vast majority of Islam's followers understand the same.
 
Onceler said:
People of almost every faith have warped their religion for a violent agenda, since the beginning of time. It's not exclusive to Islam.
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That's not the point.

Here's the point. Islamic terrorism is a problem in the civilized world.
 
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