Ethical Question: Cloning Neanderthal

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South Carolina has never upheld the Constitution. Before it seceded from America, it advocated nullification during the Jackson Administration, which is unconstitutional. Jackson promptly put the fuckers in their place. After it seceded from America, South Carolina was no longer attempting to live under the Constitution, and therefore could not champion it. Instead, it attempted to seize an American fort. People like you always seem to think that it would have been a good idea for Lincoln to show weakness toward an enemy, and just give the Confederates whatever they asked for, because you love a foreign government more than you do America. You would have cheered when Chamberlain gave Germany the Sudetenland.

I wondered how long it would take before some arsehole mentioned Fort Sumter?

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[CFM]

South Carolina has never upheld the Constitution. Before it seceded from America, it advocated nullification during the Jackson Administration, which is unconstitutional. Jackson promptly put the fuckers in their place. After it seceded from America, South Carolina was no longer attempting to live under the Constitution, and therefore could not champion it. Instead, it attempted to seize an American fort. People like you always seem to think that it would have been a good idea for Lincoln to show weakness toward an enemy, and just give the Confederates whatever they asked for, because you love a foreign government more than you do America. You would have cheered when Chamberlain gave Germany the Sudetenland.

SC seceded because big federal government assholes like you abused the Constitution. When you look at the truth, you get the true perspective.

They didn't attempt to seize Ft. Sumter. They DID. Learn history, son, before running your dick sucker.

 

[Ralph]

Developing evidence suggests that Neanderthal was a separate and distinct species from modern man.

Developing technology suggests it may someday be possible to clone a Neanderthal from recovered DNA.

Even though human surrogates would be used for the cloning process, would the ethics of human cloning come into play?

Or because they are a separate species, would it simply be a matter of the ethics of cloning extinct species, such as the woolly mammoth?

Once cloned, would it be ethical to use Neanderthals as a workforce for modern man, much as we used other livestock for labor?

They would be pretty handy to have around. Higher intelligence than other livestock, and probably a capacity to even understand our languages, perhaps even communicate intelligently. Just make it up in the lab from scratch....make something alive without any preexisting life being present.

Opinions?

Would it not be cheaper...instead of cloning to simply go back into the hills and hollers all throughout the world and point out examples of what happens when decades or centuries of inbreeding in the same familiar bloodline takes place. If you clone a supposed Neanderthal...you will only get a deformed example of the same human inbreeding geneo traits. Big deformed head, spines and joints suffering from deformity, low intelligence....with the same human needs of food, shelter..etc.,

Does the world really need more imperfect examples of humanity? Just clone any politician. What I would like to see is a neanderthal cloned void of using any HUMAN DNA....just make life happen in the lab from scratch. Then you would have something new.

 

[Timshel]

Learn to read, dumbfuck. I didn't say you're from Alabubba. If you were, you probably wouldn't have trolled WinterBorn for being a Tide fan. I said you were dumb enough to be from Alabubba, which is true, because, BOY, you sure are one dumb motherfucker. You are dumb enough to be a Neanderthal, which, again, is not to say that you actually are one.

This clown has been around since WB's last appearance? Is it an ILA sock?

 

[domer76]

Stop backstepping, NL.

Nice Lad?

Would Pocahontas be a lad?

 

[domer76]

Who jumped ship first. That would be the assholes like you in the federal government that abused the Constitution.

South Carolina
Civil War
Removal of the Confederate flag
You on this forum

See the pattern? It must get tiresome be be a chronic loser.

 

[Timshel]

South Carolina has never upheld the Constitution. Before it seceded from America, it advocated nullification during the Jackson Administration, which is unconstitutional. Jackson promptly put the fuckers in their place. After it seceded from America, South Carolina was no longer attempting to live under the Constitution, and therefore could not champion it. Instead, it attempted to seize an American fort. People like you always seem to think that it would have been a good idea for Lincoln to show weakness toward an enemy, and just give the Confederates whatever they asked for, because you love a foreign government more than you do America. You would have cheered when Chamberlain gave Germany the Sudetenland.

Yeah, and those cowards resisted the DofI as Boston was burning. In retrospect, maybe they were right, but it was based on their cowardice and not the principle that Boston sucks!

 

[domer76]

SC seceded because big federal government assholes like you abused the Constitution. When you look at the truth, you get the true perspective.

They didn't attempt to seize Ft. Sumter. They DID. Learn history, son, before running your dick sucker.

Losing that war still chaps your ass, doesn't it, Cletus?

 

[Timshel]

Maybe I missed it, but I never saw him say he was a Confederate sympathizer.

Secession itself was not an Unconstitutional act at the time. They had asked the Federal government to vacate Ft. Sumter, which Lincoln refused to do.

And we know the rest of that history.

I think today even most Confederate sympathizers are glad the Confederacy lost. Other than a Hank Williams Jr. song about 30 years ago, I don't think I've ever heard anybody say recently a Confederate victory would have been a good thing.

You are a confederate sympathizer. Tell us about your thoughts of "12 Years a Slave" again?

 

[Timshel]

While I agree that slavery was wrong; the liberal tirades against the South, seem a little one sided.

Why aren't they having the same angst against the slavery that occurred in the Native American society, prior to European colonization?

OR

Why aren't they rallying against modern day slavery, that still exists in other countries; instead of spending all their energy on what USED TO BE?

Because there are apologists for the south who spread a bunch of revisionist bullshit.

How do you know what their activities are on those other issues? Your argument is a whataboutism fallacy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

 

[Taft2016]

You are a confederate sympathizer. Tell us about your thoughts of "12 Years a Slave" again?

Why bother? Arguing with those whose ideas about the American Civil War is limited to that of 3rd graders is a waste of time.

With the benefit of hindsight that President Lincoln did not have, I think the best course of action would have been to allow the Confederacy to secede. Within 10 to 15 years they would have realized that in international relations they would not have been able to survive in the world economy with products produced by slave labor. The internal pressures within the populations of nations like Britain and France would have resulted in embargoes. The Confederacy would have abolished slavery on their own, realized they had more in common with the Federal government than they initially thought, and that rejoining the union would have been in everyone's best interests.

I don't think that perfectly rational observation makes me a "sympathizer."

Lol, and as I said in the 12 years thread, I must be the only pro-Lincoln neo-Confederate in existence. So, back to your 3rd grade text book laddie.

 

[Timshel]

Why bother? Arguing with those whose ideas about the American Civil War is limited to that of 3rd graders is a waste of time.

With the benefit of hindsight that President Lincoln did not have, I think the best course of action would have been to allow the Confederacy to secede. Within 10 to 15 years they would have realized that in international relations they would not have been able to survive in the world economy with products produced by slave labor. The internal pressures within the populations of nations like Britain and France would have resulted in embargoes. The Confederacy would have abolished slavery on their own, realized they had more in common with the Federal government than they initially thought, and that rejoining the union would have been in everyone's best interests.

I don't think that perfectly rational observation makes me a "sympathizer."

Lol, and as I said in the 12 years thread, I must be the only pro-Lincoln neo-Confederate in existence. So, back to your 3rd grade text book laddie.

This is BS based on your ignorance. The Confederate constitution would have made it very difficult to end slavery. The Confederates had designs on the Caribbean and fully intended to expand slavery. They were morally committed to slavery as a way of life. There is no reason to believe they would have soon given it up.

 

[Airstrip One]

SC held to the principles of the Constitution and federalism. SC seems to understand that. You don't.

SC had no idea what the principles of either were. Most of the things they supported, such as Dred Scott and the Fugitive Slave Law violated federalism.

 

[Airstrip One]

SC seceded because big federal government assholes like you abused the Constitution. When you look at the truth, you get the true perspective.

They didn't attempt to seize Ft. Sumter. They DID. Learn history, son, before running your dick sucker.

No state was a bigger supporter of nullification than was SC. Hence, no state in US history has been a bigger opponent of the Constitution than SC, because no proposed action has ever been a greater constitutional violation.

 

[Airstrip One]

I wondered how long it would take before some arsehole mentioned Fort Sumter?

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[Airstrip One]

SC seceded because big federal government assholes like you abused the Constitution. When you look at the truth, you get the true perspective.

They didn't attempt to seize Ft. Sumter. They DID. Learn history, son, before running your dick sucker.

Name an abuse of the Constitution by the Americans. I've named several by the Confederates.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Because there are apologists for the south who spread a bunch of revisionist bullshit.

How do you know what their activities are on those other issues? Your argument is a whataboutism fallacy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Just like liberals voice apologies for the behavior of the followers of Islam.
Seeing as how liberals are so set on voicing all their behaviors; it would stand to reason that if they were involved, they would be declaring their activities "on those other issues".

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

Just like liberals voice apologies for the behavior of the followers of Islam.
Seeing as how liberals are so set on voicing all their behaviors; it would stand to reason that if they were involved, they would be declaring their activities "on those other issues".

List all the apologies that "liberals" have voiced for the behavior of the followers of Islam.

I will understand when you can't...

 

[Taft2016]

This is BS based on your ignorance. The Confederate constitution would have made it very difficult to end slavery. The Confederates had designs on the Caribbean and fully intended to expand slavery. They were morally committed to slavery as a way of life. There is no reason to believe they would have soon given it up.

I suppose your ignorance denied you the fact that the Confederate Constitution prohibited the importation of slaves.

 

[domer76]

I suppose your ignorance denied you the fact that the Confederate Constitution prohibited the importation of slaves.

Fucking moron. The slave trade ended in 1807 because the South already had a self-sustaining population of slaves.

Racist fucktard.