Education and degrees?

Truth Detector said:
You can’t possibly have a clue about either or you wouldn’t support the leftist ideology you eschew and say the patently dumb things you do.
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You lose a lot of credibilty with me with remarks like that. There are smart people on both sides of the political philosophical spectrum. When you tastelessly and indiscriminately denigrate anyone and everyone who disagrees with your point of view, you only serve to highlight what a lightweight you are, imo.

I find your selective outrage amazing; I never see you whine like a little vagina at evince’s or The Dudes.
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The obvious difference is that they don't ever insult me.

NICE pension. You’re set for life Commander! Now if only we could re-educate you! ;)
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The Navy pension is alright, but it is only a small segment of my retirement income stream. The rest I earned by being smart in subjects like economics and finance. That's how come I could retire to paradise at age 60. I certainly don't need any re-education from impolite little twerps like you. I would suggest that you might find more meaningful and cordial interaction on here if you'd start treating people with a modicum of respect. But it will be slow going, no doubt. You have sprayed nonstop abuse on any and every liberal for so long it will take many weeks before most folks have anything cordially substantive to say to you other than "go fuck yourself", but you certainly have well earned, and richly deserve such disdain.
 
maineman said:
You lose a lot of credibilty with me with remarks like that. There are smart people on both sides of the political philosophical spectrum. When you tastelessly and indiscriminately denigrate anyone and everyone who disagrees with your point of view, you only serve to highlight what a lightweight you are, imo.
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I have seen you denigrate those who disagree with you; is this more selective outrage on your part?

I don’t denigrate you indiscriminately; I denigrate your painfully obvious ignorance on history, on politics, on the Constitution and on economics.

How else can one describe someone so patently clueless and who cannot seem to remember what they posted two minutes ago?

maineman said:
The obvious difference is that they don't ever insult me.
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I see; so it is okay as long as the insults are directed to everyone else BUT you. ::wink wink::


maineman said:
The Navy pension is alright, but it is only a small segment of my retirement income stream. The rest I earned by being smart in subjects like economics and finance. That's how come I could retire to paradise at age 60.
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And where is this paradise? Because I would argue to you that it is I, who lives in paradise.

maineman said:
I certainly don't need any re-education from impolite little twerps like you.
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Well then, I guess we will have to BEAT the facts and reality into you until you yell uncle then. I was trying to get you there the easy way; but dullards seldom do much of anything the easy way.

maineman said:
I would suggest that you might find more meaningful and cordial interaction on here if you'd start treating people with a modicum of respect.
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One cannot respect dimwits who purposefully engage in the never ending circle of stupidity for the only purpose is to avoid the truth, the facts and reality. I assure you that my remarks always started out polite, only to be met by vulgar stupidity. This forum is filled with vulgar leftist stupidity. I would argue that if Liberals wish to be treated with respect, then they should respect the opinions of others.

maineman said:
But it will be slow going, no doubt. You have sprayed nonstop abuse on any and every liberal for so long it will take many weeks before most folks have anything cordially substantive to say to you other than "go fuck yourself", but you certainly have well earned, and richly deserve such disdain.
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I wear it as a badge of honor; lord knows that if I were to agree with the vulgar stupid nonsense eschewed here by Liberals, I too would be dumber than a door knob.

I suggest you take some of your own medicine and get back to me when you can remember past your last post.

I'm amazed that it doesn't occur to a genius like you that if you don't like my style, you merely do not have to engage me. ;)
 
Damocles said:
Current cost of education drops the increased income by quite a bit. Many people get "educated" only to find that they have lifetime loans to pay back and their degree in "communication" isn't going to net them enough to pay it back in any sort of timely fashion. The crippling debt tends to take a bit of the benefit away.

The cost to benefit analysis for most college educations is no longer on your side, it hasn't been for about 5 years now. (Remember, many college educations are not in something that will make you a ton of cash in the future.)

Since 1978 the cost of college has increased 1,100%, that far outstrips inflation by a bunch. Sending your kids to college because you think any bachelor degree will net them a good future is nonsense.

I would limit that statement to a valued degree, not just any degree. Simply saying, "If you have a degree you will make more." isn't true. You must choose a valuable course of study or you are likely to wind up wondering how the people who didn't go surpassed you in pay and are further ahead in their careers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/05/26/colleges-need-fewer-inefficiencies/2351643/
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None of that disprove income goes up with education!
It is in fact current as ever
 
cawacko said:
Athletes need a 2.0 to be eligible is my understanding and that's a C average. If you follow college football, especially in the South, there are numerous examples of athletes who have tutors write their papers for them etc. you even have professors who will give passing grades to non deserving athletes because they are fans.
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Is this a shock to anyone?
 
Damocles said:
I don't believe that the only form of education must be structured, Jarod. You said, "That wasn't the question..."

It was. I asked if you believed that self-educated people would count as "well-educated" as pertaining to what you asked in your OP. You said no which leads me to believe that that we measure an education differently.
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I don't think I ever said that a self-educated person does not count as "well-educated". That's half of my point.
 
maineman said:
one gets "educated" merely by going through the educational process of earning a degree. The point I think that Jarod was trying to make was that people can get degrees and still not be very WELL educated. TD seems to be the poster boy for this sort of experience.
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In the sense that Educated is a matter of degree, and everyone is educated by every experience, yes. From a different perspective, if you call "educated" a certain level of learning... I firmly believe one can get a degree and still not be educated.

I know people with college degrees who can barely read. I have a doctorate and cant spell.
 
An undergrad is nothing more than a not retarded certificate, it's worth a couple million!
Graduate degrees and up are educated
 
maineman said:
one gets "educated" merely by going through the educational process of earning a degree. The point I think that Jarod was trying to make was that people can get degrees and still not be very WELL educated. TD seems to be the poster boy for this sort of experience.
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Odd... Garud is the perfect example of having a degree and not being well educated. Hell, he even has an advanced degree and yet he is still a moron.
 
Superfreak said:
Odd... Garud is the perfect example of having a degree and not being well educated. Hell, he even has an advanced degree and yet he is still a moron.
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You thinking I am moron is besides the point. Education and intelligence are not the same thing.
 
Jarod said:
Now, what about the opposite, have you ever met a person with a degree who you think is not educated?
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Dear dunce; you may have met someone with a degree whom you thought was ignorant, you for instance, but they were still educated.

Why can't you admit you made a really stupid comment and move on? Why do you feel compelled to remove all doubt you're a dunce?

Let me try this; I think you're a dunce, but you're still an educated dunce because you have a degree. I cannot claim you are uneducated. Did that help Dr. dunce; or do I need my crayons?
 
Jarod said:
You thinking I am moron is besides the point. Education and intelligence are not the same thing.
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Dear Dunce; we weren't talking about education and intelligence. We were talking about your dimwitted claim that one can have a degree and not be educated.

You're so dumb you can't comprehend you're own dunce claims. He doesn't "think" you're a moron, he KNOWS you're one when you start threads like this and can't remember what it is you are trying to argue; because you're a dunce...proof that even with an education, one can still be a dunce.
 
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