Do we NEED to find improper ballots or rigged machines to overturn election?
- Thread starter Stretch
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306-232
As usual, you were wrong about everything. No state changed its electoral votes up til Jan 6, no contested electors were accepted, the electoral votes certified on Jan 6 were the same votes cast by the electors on Dec 14.
The process was conducted just as provided for in the Constitution just as it reads and not based on your distorted interpretation.
Fixed it for you.
The popular vote is not an "advisory election." The party slate winning the popular vote is the slate elected to cast its electoral votes. And now, we know those electors can be bound to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged. Although they can be punished for not doing so, they cannot be forced. However, they can be replaced if they do not.
That procedure is under the constitutional power of the state legislature. They do not actually choose the electors but electors are chosen under their authority. The parties chooses the people who serve as electors and the voters choose the slate to vote in the electoral college which cast its votes on Dec 14.
You claimed Biden did not win 306-232 because that vote had not yet occurred; but it did occur on Dec 14.
That has what we have been telling you all along you tried to hold on the hope Trump could still win.
zappasguitar
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You made the allegation. You back it up with evidence.
zappasguitar
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Right.
Didn't think anyone had any actual proof...just more of the same whining.
They did so on December 14 and certified by Congress on January 6 with no states changing their electoral votes.
Into the Night
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The States of PA, GA, WI, NM, AZ, and NV all did.
Irrelevant.
Both slates of electors cast their votes on Dec 14th, dumbass.
No, it wasn't.
Only State legislatures have authority to choose the electors, not any court, not the governor, nor the Secretary of State, not the U.S. Senate, not the U.S. House, not Pence.
Electors were chosen by governors and election officials, not the legislatures. Since that didn't happen, and Article II and the 12th amendment was ignored, Congress has chosen to sustain election fraud.
Prime Minister Biden (soon to be Harris?) will be installed Jan 20th, probably in a relatively private ceremony.
Into the Night
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Yes it is.
Only the legislature can certify that vote.
No. The Electoral college is an independent voting body.
No such power.
Yes they do.
That is choosing their electors, dumbass.
No. The legislature does.
Only the legislature can certify such a vote. That did not happen in several States.
No. The vote of the electoral college is counted on Jan 6th (and 7th).
Since the House and Senate have voted to sustain election fraud, Trump cannot win now. Prime Minister-elect Biden will be installed Jan 20th.
Into the Night
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Already given. RQAA.
Into the Night
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Seven States sent BOTH slates. These States were properly challenged in the Senate. The House and Senate voted to sustain election fraud.
No. None of that was action by the state legislatures. It was just disgruntled Republicans who put forth an alternate slate that had no recognition.
But only one slate was certified by the state. The other slate was totally meaningless.
I'm glad you family admit the electors cast their electoral votes on December 14. You have been claiming the electors did not vote until January 6.
No, it wasn't.
That is true in every state in every presidential election. The power of the state legislature to choose electors means they can use whatever method they decide. They choose to allow the parties or governor choose the individuals and the voters choose which slate will cast their electoral votes.
If Congress perpetuated an election fraud the same thing was true in 2016 and every other presidential election because they used the same procedures.
Yes, I understand Biden and Harris will be inaugurated. I have been telling you for weeks that the vote would be 306-232 but you insisted they had not voted yet; however, you acknowledge above Dec 14 was the electoral vote. And the other electoral slates was just a hoax.
No, the House and Senate only voted on objections to the election. The Republican slates of electors were never considered and since they were not chosen under the authority of the slate legislature had no constitutional recognition.
The states did not send an alternative slate, some Republican perpetuated that hoax on the voters making some of them believe they had some chance of replacing the legitimate electors.
zappasguitar
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Thank you for acknowledging you can't provide any actual proof.
I humbly accept your concession.
Crowds at Trump DC Rally happening now..........
Those Trump supporters of yours stormed the Capitol, attacked police officers, beat a cop to death, committed vandalism, larceny, assault.
Into the Night
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Assumption of victory fallacy. Denial of history. Doublespeak. RQAA.
Into the Night
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No, they didn't. You can't fit a million people in the Capital building.
Antifa and BLM attacked cops. They have been doing THAT all last year.
Antifa and BLM committed vandalism. They have been doing THAT all last year also.
Antifa and BLM pillage and are continuing to pillage.