Do we NEED to find improper ballots or rigged machines to overturn election?

oooooooooooooooooooooooo geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop! Please!
I'm not a baby sitter. Asked and answered ad infinitum for weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks!:palm:
Cruz defense, voters don’t like the results :laugh: ridiculous
 
Reps have more "1 vote" SL's. Agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain we must wait. We don't know yet what the objections will lead to at a certain point
which agaaaaaaaaaain I've outlined ad nauseam for weeks already.
 
Let him believe that. Imagine what his friends and co-workers will think of him when he goes around repeating that to them.

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He probably also says the media will stop talking about the virus as soon as the election is over.
 
Sure it is ... we'll see.

If it were possible to reject the choice of the electorate and endorse the loser, it would cause the most god-awful constitutional crisis in modern US history.

They would be doing it because they "suspect" massive fraud without being able to cite any evidence. Why do they suspect massive fraud? Because the loser told them he won.

Do you begin to get some inkling of how ridiculous this is? Anyway, it won't happen - they don't have the numbers in either house.
 
Same with illegal voting procedures and ballots. That's why there's a Constitutional way to handle the situation.
 
You've already done it 4 times in the past. It happens. It's constitutional. Relax. You guys might win. Follow the hearing today so you
can gain 1st hand information on how this procedure works. Make a nice frozen drink, sit back, relax. :cool:

It's a coup attempt. It is unconstitutional, anti-democratic, un-American, unpatriotic, a disgrace, despicable, pathetic, and totally uncalled for.
 
Same with illegal voting procedures and ballots. That's why there's a Constitutional way to handle the situation.

The proper way is to file court cases with evidence. So far, dozens of cases have been filed without evidence. The courts have ruled in every one of those cases and said there was no evidence that would invalidate the election.

Your failure to understand the most basic principles of the US Constitution doesn't make the US Constitution mean what you wish it means. The states are given control over their elections. States have their own Constitutions which were not violated. States have their own laws which were not violated. Just because you believe bullshit from Trump and his minions doesn't make that bullshit true.
 
I'm pretty sure that Dems just want to win so that they can finish the work of their party founders. Confronting them about constitutionality in elections is probably not going to win them over.

It won't, obviously. Nothing can win them over. They are fundamentalists in the Church of Karl Marx. They want to implement fascism by oligarchy. They want to destroy the Constitution.
I post what I post so that others might see the problems with their arguments.
 
If it were possible to reject the choice of the electorate and endorse the loser,
Who said anything about endorsing a loser? Who said anything about rejecting the electoral college votes? What is being challenged here is who the electors actually are.
it would cause the most god-awful constitutional crisis in modern US history.
Nope. It would simply revert to use the 12th amendment method.
They would be doing it because they "suspect" massive fraud without being able to cite any evidence.
The evidence exists. There is a lot of it. It has already been cited. Denial of history.
Why do they suspect massive fraud?
Because of the evidence.
Because the loser told them he won.
No, because of the evidence.
Do you begin to get some inkling of how ridiculous this is?
You are being quite ridiculous. Ignoring the evidence and installing Biden is not ridiculous, it's dangerous.
Anyway, it won't happen - they don't have the numbers in either house.
They also don't have valid electoral votes from several States.
 
And, there's always this in the good news from PA:cool:.........................


PENNSYLVANIA MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RELEASE STATEMENT REGARDING CERTIFICATION OF ELECTORS


WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Pennsylvania members of the U.S. House of Representatives including Congressman Dan Meuser (PA-9), Congressman Glenn ‘GT’ Thompson (PA-15), Congressman Mike Kelly (PA-16), Congressman Scott Perry (PA-10), Congressman Lloyd Smucker (PA-11), Congressman Guy Reschenthaler (PA-14), Congressman John Joyce (PA-13), and Congressman Fred Keller (PA-12) released the following joint statement:

“The United States Constitution is unambiguous in declaring that state legislatures are the entity with authority to set election procedure -

“Article 1, Section 4, Clause 1: The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof…

“Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2: Each state shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors…


“Unfortunately, the many unlawful actions undertaken by the Pennsylvania Governor's office, the Secretary of State, and what has been described as a rogue Pennsylvania Supreme Court exceeded and circumvented the state legislature's clear constitutional authority.

“The unlawful actions include, but are not limited to:

Accepting ballots past 8:00 pm on Election Day
Not properly requiring signatures to match those on mail-in ballots or requiring dates
Meanwhile, the matching of signatures was required at a polling site
Authorizing the curing of mail-in ballots with less than a 24-hour's notice
Only some counties were informed and adhered to this order leaving voters treated unequally from county to county
Authorizing the use of unsecure drop boxes, which is not permitted in statute
Prohibiting certified poll watchers overseeing the canvassing of ballots in Philadelphia


“These unlawful actions were taken without the authority or consent of the Pennsylvania state legislature. These are facts, and they are indisputable.

“Additionally, the Pennsylvania Attorney General did nothing with regard to these unlawful activities. Not one inquiry, no questioning, and certainly no investigations. Not to mention that hundreds, if not thousands, of affidavits outlining election complaints and potential fraud were documented, submitted, and ignored. The Pennsylvania election could be summed up as a free-for-all with no oversight and different standards applied throughout the Commonwealth. It is also very apparent that the unlawful actions described were concentrated in heavily populated, Democrat-led counties.

“By definition, such unlawful, unregulated, and inconsistent activities resulted in a highly questionable and inaccurate vote total. The scope of these inaccuracies cannot be known until the legal ballots are identified and counted, and the illegal ballots are disqualified. This has not been done.

“Therefore, the state's official certification of electors was based upon a flawed system and an inaccurate vote count. Thus, very possibly resulting in an erroneous certification.

“Until these unlawful practices are acknowledged and corrected, we cannot agree to support electors chosen based upon an inaccurate total vote count. The voters of Pennsylvania deserve integrity in the election process and equal protection under the law.

“This very unfortunate, volatile, and distressing situation is due to the lack of respect and regard for the law and the U.S. Constitution as well as the Pennsylvania State Constitution. Additionally, the failure of Pennsylvania's justice system to seek the truth, rather than stay silent, allowed these irregular, unlawful actions to create a high level of mistrust in the process as well as a potentially flawed outcome.

“If there is an American ideal that all citizens, regardless of party affiliation, can agree upon is that we must have election integrity. Election integrity is the only way to ensure trust in our elections and it is accomplished by adhering to our Constitution and the law.”

https://meuser.house.gov/media/pres...ess-release-statement-regarding-certification

There it is.
 
The Senate is coming together. Loeffler removed her protest. The rest of the speakers are talking history and unity. I think this scared some people.
 
The proper way is to file court cases with evidence. So far, dozens of cases have been filed without evidence. The courts have ruled in every one of those cases and said there was no evidence that would invalidate the election.

Your failure to understand the most basic principles of the US Constitution doesn't make the US Constitution mean what you wish it means. The states are given control over their elections. States have their own Constitutions which were not violated. States have their own laws which were not violated. Just because you believe bullshit from Trump and his minions doesn't make that bullshit true.

Evidence does not require a court to exist.

State constitutions WERE violated in several States, including PA, GA, WI, MI, AZ, NV, and NM.
 
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