Dixie, who do you predict will win in November?

Dixie said:
There is a vast difference between knowing what people want and desire, as opposed to judging what they are as a group. No correlation, as far as I can see. But thanks for your profound interjection.
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You're welcome.

Do you ever tire of spinning round and round?
 
Watermark said:
There are TONS of polls on abortion:

http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm

You can't just take one poll and say that's the end of it all.
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I didn't take one poll and say that's the end of it all, shit for brains. Your barrage of pointy-head liberal-biased poll questions is not an indicator of what we are debating either. In a straight up question of whether people support abortion or right to life, the result is always around 51~52% for right to life, if the polling is done legitimately with the proper cross-sampling of America. When the question is regarding partial birth, an overwhelming majority is not in favor of it.

As I stated, I am about as conservative as they come, some people on this very board would classify me as an "extreme right-winger" yet, I do not favor an outright ban on all abortion procedures. By Oncie's standards, I fit into his "Middlin" bracket. I don't think I am an extremist, but I am far from the typical "moderate" these days, which is just another fancy-ass name for Liberal-Lite. I am Conservative, both fiscal and social, but I am not an extremist, and it pisses me off to continue to see scumbags like you, categorize conservatives as some bunch of unreasonable wacko nutbags.

That has been the jist of Oncies argument, relegate ALL Conservatives to the extreme right wing, and maintain that the so-called "moderates" and liberals far outweigh them. We are a predominately conservative nation, and most conservatives are not extreme right wing wackos. On the left, however, there is no room for moderate viewpoints, ask Joe and Zell.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Thats funny. Dixie said he was pretty moderate once.
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From my perspective, I think I am fairly moderate. I have heard what right wing wackos have to say and I don't agree with them, and I have heard what left wing wackos say, and I damn sure don't agree with them, so where does that fucking put me, Einstein?
 
Dixie said:
I didn't take one poll and say that's the end of it all, shit for brains. Your barrage of pointy-head liberal-biased poll questions is not an indicator of what we are debating either. In a straight up question of whether people support abortion or right to life, the result is always around 51~52% for right to life, if the polling is done legitimately with the proper cross-sampling of America. When the question is regarding partial birth, an overwhelming majority is not in favor of it.

As I stated, I am about as conservative as they come, some people on this very board would classify me as an "extreme right-winger" yet, I do not favor an outright ban on all abortion procedures. By Oncie's standards, I fit into his "Middlin" bracket. I don't think I am an extremist, but I am far from the typical "moderate" these days, which is just another fancy-ass name for Liberal-Lite. I am Conservative, both fiscal and social, but I am not an extremist, and it pisses me off to continue to see scumbags like you, categorize conservatives as some bunch of unreasonable wacko nutbags.

That has been the jist of Oncies argument, relegate ALL Conservatives to the extreme right wing, and maintain that the so-called "moderates" and liberals far outweigh them. We are a predominately conservative nation, and most conservatives are not extreme right wing wackos. On the left, however, there is no room for moderate viewpoints, ask Joe and Zell.
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Your definition of Conservative is quite different from the real definition though. You embrace failed politicians who have raided the coffers and engaged in imperialistic and liberal nation building. You praise and defend politicians who spend far more than any other entity in history, who have expanded entitlement programs more than any other entity ever, and who have grown the reach of government socially, fiscally, and internationally more than any other entity, EVER.

Your definition of conservative is not what gels with the country, and you can sit back and boot lick these political hacks all the fuck you want, but you're not damned conservative when you defend, embrace, and work to keep these fucknuts in power.
 
Dixie said:
From my perspective, I think I am fairly moderate. I have heard what right wing wackos have to say and I don't agree with them, and I have heard what left wing wackos say, and I damn sure don't agree with them, so where does that fucking put me, Einstein?
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You're a right wing whacko. No question.
 
I'm mocking the libertarian obsession with refusing to label anything they consider undesirable right-wing. Their historical revisionism is absurd and should be laughed at.
 
Watermark said:
I'm mocking the libertarian obsession with refusing to label anything they consider undesirable right-wing. Their historical revisionism is absurd and should be laughed at.
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That's incorrect. How is big government "right wing"? How is nation building "right wing"? How is expansion of social programs "right wing"? How is a 3 trillion budget "right wing"?

Answer: Because you're a total retard.
 
Watermark said:
I'm mocking the libertarian obsession with refusing to label anything they consider undesirable right-wing. Their historical revisionism is absurd and should be laughed at.
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BTW You still haven't acknowledged that you were owned in our historical chat about the North/South debate over Western Lands...
 
Beefy said:
That's incorrect. How is big government "right wing"? How is nation building "right wing"? How is expansion of social programs "right wing"? How is a 3 trillion budget "right wing"?

Answer: Because you're a total retard.
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How is anything [insert something Beefy consider wrong here] "right wing"?
 
Threedee said:
BTW You still haven't acknowledged that you were owned in our historical chat about the North/South debate over Western Lands...
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Threedee, anyone with an IQ over 60 could tell you that your revisionism about southerners actually being liberal (until all the liberals uprooted and switched places with northerners and Californians after 1960) is absolutely retarded.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You're a right wing whacko. No question.
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Why don't you tell us what 'right wing extremist' viewpoints I have then?

Here is the deal, you and your liberal cabal have villainized conservatism to the point that any mention of anything remotely conservative is deemed as radical right wing extremism. Unless someone espouses the extreme leftist views, they can't even call themselves a moderate. Basically, those who are allowed to call themselves "moderate" are those who have kissed liberal ass enough, and sold out conservative principles enough to be accepted by the radical left. And of course, liberal radicals who don't like being seen as extremists, and call themselves "moderate" to make themselves look better, like the 'progressives'.

The vast majority of America being Moderate, is a myth, and one propped up by the left. We are predominately conservative, with a fairly large contingent of left wing radicals, some of which like to refer to themselves as "moderates" or "progressive". By keeping this myth going, and constantly pounding on conservatism, villainizing any and all conservative views, you have managed to convince some stupid people they want to be liked more than being conservatives. You stretch your big liberal umbrella over the area you call "moderate" and welcome them in. And they go, because they don't want to be called names anymore, they do have moderate views as do most conservatives, but you've convinced them they can still be liked again, if they just step away from the 'radical right wing' and embrace your liberal goofball ideas. These idiots comprise the "Moderates" and most of them are Conservative in their personal views.
 
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