Dixie, who do you predict will win in November?

[evince]

If I were "KING" I would make my country into a democracy. You see a king can make any choice and even chose to abdicate power.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

If I were "KING" I would make my country into a democracy. You see a king can make any choice and even chose to abdicate power.

Bullshit! Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You would have people like me executed, along with any other voices of dissent or people who disagree with you. Then you would confiscate all the shoes in the country, so you could own them all. BUT THE POINT AGAIN, YOU ARE NOT THE KING!

 

[Jarod]

Jarhead, read the complete statement carefully. I know it has some big words you may not understand, but your mommy can help you with those. The biggest problem with pulling one of my posts out of your ass, is you don't see what was posted before or after, and have no reference for context. This is called parsing. When you parse my statements, you often draw a different conclusion than the intended meaning.

The point of the statement in question was to illustrate that I am not the Imperial King, and I don't personally get to decide this issue or what to do, rather, it is a societal issue in a democratic society, where we all get to decide what to do. In order to drive home this point, I told you what the law might be if I were the King and what I said was the law of the land and no one else had a say. The point that seems to have flown completely over your head, I am not the King, will never be the King, and so what I would do as the King is completely irrelevant. In other words, it doesn't matter what my personal viewpoint is, it could be as stated, that I believe women should be stoned, but it doesn't matter because I am not the King! Can you comprehend the point? There is a vast difference between what we would personally rule as kings, I would fucking hate to see what kind of shit you would impose on your subjects, but thank God, you will never be King either! We are a society of people who are free to decide as a group, therefore, my personal viewpoint has little to do with what I support in a public sense, as the law of the land that we all have to live by. Maybe that is too deep for you to understand, but that was the point, not that I condone or advocate stoning of women who have abortions. I can certainly understand how that is the meaning you gathered in parsing my comments, but you are incorrect as to my position on abortion. And for the record, that particular comment was in response to someone who was bashing me for being "too liberal" on my abortion viewpoint, and claimed I was a hypocrite.

No weasling out of this one Dix...

If you had your way, we would be stoning to death women who have abortions. That is not a moderate position.

Plus how do you reconsile that with:

"My view on abortion is: Legal in cases of rape, incest, and mother's life only.
As opposed to the right-wing wacko idea of stoning those who have abortions."

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Anyone who thinks a being like God would be down w/ a punishment like stoning someone to death is a f**king imbecile.

Dixie is an idiot on a lot of levels, but I had no idea he was also in w/ the Taliban...

Uhm, in the days of the Old Testament, that is precisely the punishment they used, in the name of God. That was the reason the example was used in making my point that flew comfortably over your pinheads. Of course I don't advocate stoning of women who have abortions, never would condone such a thing. There was a bigger point being made, and you missed it.

 

[evince]

Bullshit! Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You would have people like me executed, along with any other voices of dissent or people who disagree with you. Then you would confiscate all the shoes in the country, so you could own them all. BUT THE POINT AGAIN, YOU ARE NOT THE KING!

Nope.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Here... I have another way of illustrating the same exact point in a sense you may actually GET!

IF Pigs could fly, I would invest in Pig Airports and build a chain of them across the country! Now, does this mean that Dixie wants to build Pig Airports all across the country? Do we need to re-post this statement a dozen times and have an orgasm over it? Did I say something that you think is outrageous here? Of course not, because you see, pigs don't fly and will never fly, so what I would do if pigs flew, is irrelevant!


...sure dix, this coming from someone who wants to build pig airports all across the country!

Retards!

 

[Jarod]

Here... I have another way of illustrating the same exact point in a sense you may actually GET!

IF Pigs could fly, I would invest in Pig Airports and build a chain of them across the country! Now, does this mean that Dixie wants to build Pig Airports all across the country? Do we need to re-post this statement a dozen times and have an orgasm over it? Did I say something that you think is outrageous here? Of course not, because you see, pigs don't fly and will never fly, so what I would do if pigs flew, is irrelevant!


...sure dix, this coming from someone who wants to build pig airports all across the country!

Retards!

That is vastly different than saying, If I were king. If I were king is an expression that says... What you would impose if the choice were yours.

WE all know that if the choice were yours, you would have women stoned to death for having abortions.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Bullshit! Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You would have people like me executed, along with any other voices of dissent or people who disagree with you.

But I don't believe in the death penalty. That would be absurd.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Dixie - 12-12-06

"Why because a "child"'s father is a rapist should it be legal to "kill" that child.

I never said that I believed it should be legal. If it were up to me personally, there would be no legal abortion under any circumstance. If any abortion occurred for any reason, it would be a crime of murder, punishable by death, preferably stoning, as God mandated in the Old Testament.
That said, we do not live in a society where Dixie is the King, and Dixie gets to mandate the law of the land. Aren't you glad for that? In any event, I understand that we live in a society where people think and believe differently, and have different parameters regarding morality and life. Because I am willing to participate in this sharing of views and opinions we call democracy, I can be tolerant enough to listen to others and accept their viewpoints in some instances, with regard to certain circumstances.

I don't agree or condone abortion under any circumstance, however, a woman who becomes pregnant through no fault or action of her own, deserves to have the right to a different view than myself, and I understand it. That is all I am saying, and nothing more. You are trying desperately, to twist my view into some hypocritical acceptance of abortion under certain conditions, and I have not articulated that point of view. This is why I have refused to respond further to you, because you aren't interested in a reasonable discussion, you just want to stick it to Dixie.

Now, I have answered your question yet again, and you are about one post away from going back on the ignore list, if you can't grow up and join the adults in a reasonable dialogue. Understood?"


DIXIE IS A MODERATE???

Why should I be discriminated against because my father was a bad person? It makes no sense.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Jarhead, read the complete statement carefully. I know it has some big words you may not understand, but your mommy can help you with those. The biggest problem with pulling one of my posts out of your ass, is you don't see what was posted before or after, and have no reference for context. This is called parsing. When you parse my statements, you often draw a different conclusion than the intended meaning.

The point of the statement in question was to illustrate that I am not the Imperial King, and I don't personally get to decide this issue or what to do, rather, it is a societal issue in a democratic society, where we all get to decide what to do. In order to drive home this point, I told you what the law might be if I were the King and what I said was the law of the land and no one else had a say. The point that seems to have flown completely over your head, I am not the King, will never be the King, and so what I would do as the King is completely irrelevant. In other words, it doesn't matter what my personal viewpoint is, it could be as stated, that I believe women should be stoned, but it doesn't matter because I am not the King! Can you comprehend the point? There is a vast difference between what we would personally rule as kings, I would fucking hate to see what kind of shit you would impose on your subjects, but thank God, you will never be King either! We are a society of people who are free to decide as a group, therefore, my personal viewpoint has little to do with what I support in a public sense, as the law of the land that we all have to live by. Maybe that is too deep for you to understand, but that was the point, not that I condone or advocate stoning of women who have abortions. I can certainly understand how that is the meaning you gathered in parsing my comments, but you are incorrect as to my position on abortion. And for the record, that particular comment was in response to someone who was bashing me for being "too liberal" on my abortion viewpoint, and claimed I was a hypocrite.

So you actually believe that women who have abortions should be stoned to death, but for the purpose of political expediency you pretend you don't?

Well shit, I took like a thousand words less time to say that.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

That is vastly different than saying, If I were king. If I were king is an expression that says... What you would impose if the choice were yours.

WE all know that if the choice were yours, you would have women stoned to death for having abortions.

No, it is really no different at all. There is as much chance of me being King as pigs flying! What I would do or might do, if the choice were mine alone, is not relevant, because the choice is never going to be mine alone! That WAS the point. I say all kinds of outrageous things to illustrate a point, and just because you pinheads are good at parsing statements and using them out of context, doesn't mean you understand or comprehend those points.

Again, the argument that preceded my remarks, was with someone who felt I was being hypocritical because my spiritual beliefs demand that I respect life, and he couldn't comprehend how I could support abortion in cases of rape, incest, and mother's life. (which was also clearly stated earlier in the thread.) He felt this was hypocritical because it doesn't comport with my stated spiriutal viewpoints. My response was to illustrate that my personal viewpoint has nothing to do with what I publicly support as law of the land, and I used the outrageous example to illustrate that point. I understand we live in a democracy, a society where we all have a say, and we all have to find a middle ground and form laws we can all live with. It's not up to me to decide for everybody, I am not the King, and never will be the King, and I don't expect everyone to agree with my personal convictions, nor do I think they are a basis for what is the law of the land we all have to adhere to.

Now I am really sorry you are too stupid to understand the context of my statement, or what I meant by it, but that doesn't mean you have exposed some contradiction in my viewpoint on abortion. My position is well documented, and I have posted numerous threads regarding it. If you are too intellectually dishonest to acknowledge that, it's your problem, not mine.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No, it is really no different at all. There is as much chance of me being King as pigs flying! What I would do or might do, if the choice were mine alone, is not relevant, because the choice is never going to be mine alone!

And if it were you would support stoning women to death?

Dix, in a democracy it's alright to air what you think you'd do if the choice were yours alone, only other people might reject it. You seem to be trying to come up with a philosophical reason to explain your insincerity.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

So you actually believe that women who have abortions should be stoned to death, but for the purpose of political expediency you pretend you don't?

Well shit, I took like a thousand words less time to say that.

No, I actually don't believe that, but if I did, it would not matter, because my personal viewpoint has little to do with what we as a society decide is the law of the land. I would venture to say, whoever you plan to vote for president, probably doesn't completely satisfy you on every single issue across the board. In fact, you may even disagree with some of what they support, but you will still vote for them... why? Because you aren't the King, and the world doesn't bow to your feet, you have to compromise and understand there are other people who may desire something different than you, and you can accept this because we live in a democracy, not your kingdom. It doesn't mean you have sold out your principles for political expediency, it means you realize and understand the nature of democratic society and compromise.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

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[Minister of Truth]

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Of course, me not being Jewish, I don't have to follow laws laid out in Exodus and Leviticus that don't jive with the New Covenant... Dix may not be Catholic, but even a Protestant can usually accept the sense in that.

Whether or not you follow the Old or New Law (or neither), abortion is murder, and at the very least, the victims need to be protected by the secular law, however you deal with the sinners/victimizers.

As the old saying goes, let God sort them out...

 

[Cancel3]

damn pig pilot

 

[Jarod]

No, I actually don't believe that, but if I did, it would not matter, because my personal viewpoint has little to do with what we as a society decide is the law of the land. I would venture to say, whoever you plan to vote for president, probably doesn't completely satisfy you on every single issue across the board. In fact, you may even disagree with some of what they support, but you will still vote for them... why? Because you aren't the King, and the world doesn't bow to your feet, you have to compromise and understand there are other people who may desire something different than you, and you can accept this because we live in a democracy, not your kingdom. It doesn't mean you have sold out your principles for political expediency, it means you realize and understand the nature of democratic society and compromise.

We are discussing personal belifes not what society decides is the law. Sure abortion is legal, society is split on the issue...

WHERE DO YOU STAND? BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU ARE FOR STONING!

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

We are discussing personal belifes not what society decides is the law.

Really? I thought we were discussing who Dixie predicts will win in November, that's what the title says.

Sure abortion is legal, society is split on the issue...

Yes, I know, there was a landmark Supreme Court case called Roe v. Wade, since then it has been legal. No argument from me on that.

WHERE DO YOU STAND? BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU ARE FOR STONING!

No, I never said I was for stoning. You misunderstood something, it was explained to you in this thread, and you are continuing to insist something that isn't true. My position on abortion was stated in the thread you pulled the quote from, you are welcome to go read it if you like, or you can read my position in the other thread you started, or several other threads in the database, just click "search" and type in Dixie and Abortion, and you shouldn't have any trouble locating my position on abortion. I've stated it numerous times, and it doesn't include stoning.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Stoning is fun.

 

[Jarod]

Really? I thought we were discussing who Dixie predicts will win in November, that's what the title says.




Yes, I know, there was a landmark Supreme Court case called Roe v. Wade, since then it has been legal. No argument from me on that.



No, I never said I was for stoning. You misunderstood something, it was explained to you in this thread, and you are continuing to insist something that isn't true. My position on abortion was stated in the thread you pulled the quote from, you are welcome to go read it if you like, or you can read my position in the other thread you started, or several other threads in the database, just click "search" and type in Dixie and Abortion, and you shouldn't have any trouble locating my position on abortion. I've stated it numerous times, and it doesn't include stoning.

Your words, not mine!