Didn't Conservatives staple teabags to their faces because of this very thing?

[LV426]

oldest fringe kook retort of all, 'everybody does it' so STFU

that's like a bank robber telling the cops lots of people rob banks, what's the big deal?

People like Flash desperately want others to think of them as thoughtful, fair, non-partisan people. But because people like Flash are incredibly lazy, they think that getting others to think highly of them requires casting themselves as above it all who can see the scorn in all sides. That way, Flash can present himself as some kind of thoughtful, fair, even-keeled person instead of the lazy person he really is.

It's easy for Flash to throw up his hands and say it's all bad because doing the work of recognizing distinctions and differences might result in him having to come down off that pedestal he put himself on.

He's just not prepared to do that because he's scared and lazy.

 

[LV426]

oldest fringe kook retort of all, 'everybody does it' so STFU

Flash is a lazy person.

How is Flash lazy? Easy; Flash thinks everyone is the same.

He thinks everyone is the same because he has given up on doing any work that could result in his equal balance narrative being flushed away.

That if he has to actually come down on a side, it will be a betrayal of the character he's created for himself and has taken careful steps to nurture and coddle.

Any challenge to that character is met with defensiveness and posturing, like saying "all sides are to blame" when not all sides are to blame.

Or, it's by saying everything has an equal and opposite antithesis.

So he's taking the Law of Thermodynamics and applying it to non-Physics related questions. It's incredibly lazy and dishonest, and all it does is send a signal to everyone else that Flash is completely and totally incapable of recognizing or identifying distinctions and differences, so everyone must lower their expectations of him.

Basically, Flash is if Howard Schultz had a JPP account.

 

[Cypress]

U.S. Posts Largest-Ever Monthly Budget Deficit in February
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_medium=social

Funny how the teabag crowd is now strangely silent on the thing that caused them to staple teabags to their faces and posture over the debt 10 years ago.

Conservatives do not care about policy, they do not have genuine principles, and they certainly do not have a substantive vision for the country.

You have been on this forum long enough to see transparent and widespread admissions from conservatives that they only support a medicore Reality TV entertainer for President because they hate Hillary, and they feel like supporting Trump "sticks" it to liberals.

The last time I saw conservatives genuinely and enthusiastically advocate for a policy was when they were hollering at me that invading Iraq was a awesome idea.

As long as Hillary is not president, conservatives simply do not care what happens to America:
record deficits, fiscal disaster, the Kremlin meddling in our democracy, Putin aiding and abetting Republican candidates, increases in the rate of the uninsured, record trade deficits, alienating long time western allies, and doing the Kremlin's bidding.

 

[Flash]

You need to "pox on both houses" because your brain simply cannot process the fact that some people are simply wrong and evil.

Yes, but that is a simplistic view because the other side has the same or similar advertising team that convinces the other side that you are the ones who are wrong and evil. Both sides are manipulated by their raw emotions convinced that they represent the underdog while the others are the elite wealthy power manipulators who really rule the world behind the scenes. So, we worship our favorite candidate attending rallies and yelling slogans convinced they we are going to make changes and take America back from the (special interests, etc.). Other manipulators give us movies that have dramatic endings where the NASA control room stands and cheers as they successfully rescue the astronauts, save the word, or the elementary school football team comes from behind and defeats the New England Patriots in the final seconds. And we repeat it all again the next election.

 

[CFM]

the right wing throws hissy fits as needed to further their holy mission - install a right wing autocrat

debt and deficits have never meant shit to these assholes, just look at how GOP Congress' and GOP presidents routinely double or triple deficits

Apparently debts didn't mean anything to you lefties when the black boy was doubling it from 10 to 20 trillion. Pucker up, nl.

 

[CFM]

Conservatives do not care about policy, they do not have genuine principles, and they certainly do not have a substantive vision for the country.

You have been on this forum long enough to see transparent and widespread admissions from conservatives that they only support a medicore Reality TV entertainer for President because they hate Hillary, and they feel like supporting Trump "sticks" it to liberals.

The last time I saw conservatives genuinely and enthusiastically advocate for a policy was when they were hollering at me that invading Iraq was a awesome idea.

As long as Hillary is not president, conservatives simply do not care what happens to America:
record deficits, fiscal disaster, the Kremlin meddling in our democracy, Putin aiding and abetting Republican candidates, increases in the rate of the uninsured, record trade deficits, alienating long time western allies, and doing the Kremlin's bidding.

Get on board or get left behind. Your choice, BOY.

 

[Flash]

You should really see a professional about the Bothsiderism disease you have.

If Democrats' economic policy is without merit, how come Obama had sustained growth (economic, job, and market) over his eight years while simultaneously reducing the deficit.

Clinton and Obama are the only two Presidents over the last 40 years to leave office with smaller deficits than the one they inherited.

They are also the only two President to leave office with economies that weren't in total collapse and in need of bailouts.

Conservatives can't make either claim.

I never said the Democratic economic policy was without merit. I said it was fiscally irresponsible (in the long-run). Presidents are less responsible for the economy that you want to give them credit for. Obama took office in a severe recession and the economy has nowhere to go but up. It was a long recovery from a recession (as had happened in every election). Trump is getting the tail end of that recovery and things improved but the economy can't add many more jobs because there are now more job openings than people looking for work. Obama was helped by a $trillion stimulus and Trump by the tax cuts but those are temporary.

Clinton also took office following a recession and the economy recovered and then went into another recession in 2001. A recession hit when Bush was in office. None of these presidents had policies that were very different or that caused the recession or recovery. Some blame Clinton's financial deregulation for the 2008 recession but that is as simplistic as those who blame Bush.

 

[Celticguy]

TEA Party = Taxed Enough Already
I guess you were not paying attention then.

 

[Flash]

oldest fringe kook retort of all, 'everybody does it' so STFU

that's like a bank robber telling the cops lots of people rob banks, what's the big deal?

And a complete misunderstanding on your part. It is more like if anybody did something wrong punish them all. You are making lame unfounded assumptions with no support. You create a straw man to argue against.

 

[Flash]

Flash is a lazy person.

How is Flash lazy? Easy; Flash thinks everyone is the same.

He thinks everyone is the same because he has given up on doing any work that could result in his equal balance narrative being flushed away.

That if he has to actually come down on a side, it will be a betrayal of the character he's created for himself and has taken careful steps to nurture and coddle.

Any challenge to that character is met with defensiveness and posturing, like saying "all sides are to blame" when not all sides are to blame.

Or, it's by saying everything has an equal and opposite antithesis.

So he's taking the Law of Thermodynamics and applying it to non-Physics related questions. It's incredibly lazy and dishonest, and all it does is send a signal to everyone else that Flash is completely and totally incapable of recognizing or identifying distinctions and differences, so everyone must lower their expectations of him.

Basically, Flash is if Howard Schultz had a JPP account.

Laziness is making generalizations that have no support. I never said both sides are the same--I said they use the same tactics because they both hire campaign and media consultants who use the same marketing methods.

To know that I had to at least study both sides---you don't have to study either. You just adopt one side as good and the other as evil. That way you don't have to actually know anything about either.

We are still waiting for those pictures/links showing people with teabags stapled to their faces.

 

[Callinectes]

And now you get to own the largest deficits ever, including the largest monthly deficit EVER last month.

At least you understand these are caused by the idiotic policies of the democrat party. We always have to clean up after you economic slobs

 

[LV426]

Conservatives do not care about policy, they do not have genuine principles, and they certainly do not have a substantive vision for the country.

You have been on this forum long enough to see transparent and widespread admissions from conservatives that they only support a medicore Reality TV entertainer for President because they hate Hillary, and they feel like supporting Trump "sticks" it to liberals.

The last time I saw conservatives genuinely and enthusiastically advocate for a policy was when they were hollering at me that invading Iraq was a awesome idea.

As long as Hillary is not president, conservatives simply do not care what happens to America:
record deficits, fiscal disaster, the Kremlin meddling in our democracy, Putin aiding and abetting Republican candidates, increases in the rate of the uninsured, record trade deficits, alienating long time western allies, and doing the Kremlin's bidding.

"Bob" voted for and supports someone who is actively hurting people I personally know and care about.

"Bob" doesn't care because it doesn't affect him, and just thinks we are cheering for different sports teams.

Conservatives lack empathy. The ideology is entirely about selfishness, and you can't be both empathetic and selfish.

 

[LV426]

Yes, but that is a simplistic view

Flash, your view is the simplistic one.

By boiling everything down to the same level, by equating all manners of good and bad faith, and by allowing the conversation to be shifted because of that bad faith, you are lending credibility to discredited ideas and people.

You're elevating bad faith because you don't want to be discomforted by doing the work to come down on a position.

You think your bothsiderism is a virtue, but it's really a liability.

 

[Earl]

"Deplorable, homophobic, Islamophobic ..." Lol!

 

[Cypress]

"Bob" voted for and supports someone who is actively hurting people I personally know and care about.

"Bob" doesn't care because it doesn't affect him, and just thinks we are cheering for different sports teams.

Conservatives lack empathy. The ideology is entirely about selfishness, and you can't be both empathetic and selfish.

I do not even have to take your word for it.

I have seen message board teabaggers openly admit that the primary reason they support Trump is to "stick it" to liberals, and to make Evince feel sad.

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

You fucking moron and massive hypocrite; you can thank full implementation of Obamacare for that you poor pathetic dumb fuck.

What I love is the same morons who cheered Obamunism deficits claiming they were necessary now become deficits hawks two years into Trump's Presidency. You IQ matches your age snowflake.

Do you see yourself as an attack dog?

I see you as a little chihuahua biting and barking annoyingly at the heals of everyone who walks by!

You may want to back off of your personal insults of others whose opinions don't agree with yours.

You've lost your message and your influence with others when you lose your ability to to be civil and just become a nuisance and troll to everyone else!

 

[LV426]

I never said the Democratic economic policy was without merit. I said it was fiscally irresponsible (in the long-run).

These two statements contradict each other.

How is it fiscally irresponsible? Explain what you mean. Running a deficit isn't an act of irresponsibility, so I'm not sure why you think it is. So long as our debt grows at a slower pace than our GDP, there's nothing to worry about with regard to deficits. Ultimately, the only real impact federal debt has on the economy are borrowing rates for the government; but those rates have persisted at or near historic lows for the better part of a decade.

Government debt never has to be paid off because the government doesn't "die" like an individual does. We've carried a debt load in this country since the 1830's.

 

[LV426]

Presidents are less responsible for the economy that you want to give them credit for.

That's a load of horseshit.

Obama took office in a severe recession and the economy has nowhere to go but u

Untrue...when Obama took office, the economy was still contracting and did so through August of 2009. It was only because of the ARRA that economic growth rebounded. Maybe you forgot the dire straits the economy was in when Obama took office, but I haven't.

It was a long recovery from a recession (as had happened in every election).

What are you talking about? Historically, this was the worst recession since the Great Depression. The recession in 2001 didn't start until Q2 of 2001, didn't even last for a full year, and didn't even turn GDP growth for 2001 negative.

Bush was handed a thriving, growing economy with a growing budget surplus that he and the Conservatives squandered on pointless and useless tax cuts.

Bush's economy was grown entirely, almost 100% on debt:

 

[LV426]

Trump is getting the tail end of that recovery and things improved but the economy can't add many more jobs because there are now more job openings than people looking for work.

Gee, then maybe instead of tax cuts we should spend $1.5T training and educating people to fill those jobs?

 

[LV426]

Obama was helped by a $trillion stimulus and Trump by the tax cuts but those are temporary.

1. The stimulus COnservatives said wouldn't recover the economy, except that it did. So Conservatives were what? WRONG.

2. Trump's tax cuts didn't help the economy at all. In fact, revised GDP growth for 2018 was less than GDP growth in 2015 without a tax cut and long after QE and the stimulus had ended

So Flash, a lot of what you're saying is bullshit, disproved by data and facts.

It's bullshit you're trying to spin as "bothsiderist" conventional wisdom but ultimately is completely inaccurate, and belies that laziness that persists in everything you do here.