Didn't Conservatives staple teabags to their faces because of this very thing?

Flash said:
Again, changing the subject. I simply said he made that statement and you obviously did not believe me. When I proved my point you bring up new issues like a tax cut veto having no relevance to whether he said he increased taxes too much.

There was not a video attached to the New York Times article and I did not say there was. I said I saw it on television.
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LOL!

The theme of my posts on this thread has been that actions speak louder than words.

That posturing is a tactic, and that we simply cannot trust posturing, but rather we must trust actions.

Clinton's posturing in 1995 means nothing when placed in the context of his veto of a tax cut in 1999.

So by bringing up something Clinton said "offhand" in 1995 while ignoring what he did in 1999, you're contributing to the posturing argument.

Just so you know what you're getting yourself into...
 
Flash said:
That is a lie. I read all of each article and it was no lazier than any Google search although it was quick to prove the poster wrong.
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DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME.

Nothing pisses me off more than you lying to me about something so obvious.

I know for a fact you didn't read the links because I had to break one of them down in Post #90.

A post to which you haven't responded.

It's obvious why.
 
LV426 said:
DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME.

Nothing pisses me off more than you lying to me about something so obvious.

I know for a fact you didn't read the links because I had to break one of them down in Post #90.

A post to which you haven't responded.

It's obvious why.
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The articles were all short and simple. Nobody needed to break it down. Your arguments were trivial trying to find something that you could attack--like the person not being an elected official like that had something to do with the issue. You are very well versed in liberal-conservative BS arguments which ignore the real issue and divert to trivialities.
 
Flash said:
Nobody needed to break it down.
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Someone had to because of your inability to actually read what you post here.

I did just that in Post #90.

A post to which you have refused to respond, even though it's been linked to you twice this thread.
 
Flash said:
Your arguments were trivial trying to find something that you could attack
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You mean like not mentioning the deficit in links you said showed Conservatives railing about the deficit?

How can you rail about something if you never mention it?
 
Flash said:
like the person not being an elected official
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Well, Steele was an elected official for a while. Then elected again by the RNC to run it. During that time, he said a lot about deficits. Then, he just stopped.

What you did was misrepresent what he said; he didn't rail against trillion dollar deficits, he simply mentioned that Conservatives used to be opposed to them.

How is that the same thing as railing about deficits caused by tax cuts, like the ones we currently have?
 
Flash said:
like that had something to do with the issue.
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It has everything to do with the issue because most of the Republicans in office today were those who screamed about the deficit and debt 10 years ago, and postured over both to get elected like Rand Paul did in 2010.

So they postured over the deficit and debt, immediately passed tax cuts that expanded both, and you expect me to believe that they rail against deficits?

If Paul railed against the deficit, why did he vote to expand it?
 
LV426 said:
Ah, like how Trump saw dozens of Muslims dancing in New Jersey on 9/11 on TV?
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No, we already know Clinton said he raised taxes too much (which you keep trying to deny with stuff like he vetoed a tax cut and being an offhand remark).
Was the NY Times article not good enough or do you need pictures?

He also bragged about cutting taxes.
 
Flash said:
You are very well versed in liberal-conservative BS arguments which ignore the real issue and divert to trivialities.
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The real issue is that we have a record budget deficit that was created by the tax cut passed by the people who stapled teabags to their faces 10 years ago because of the record budget deficits.

That issue gets to the sincerity and credibility of the Conservatives; people who postured over the deficit and debt, but then immediately expanded both when given the chance after promising not to and making that promise central to their characters.

THAT is the issue here.
 
Flash said:
No, we already know Clinton said he raised taxes too muc
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"Offhand"

Then when presented with the choice to lower taxes in 1999, what did he do?

See, you have this nasty habit of looking at things purely within a vacuum and not the big picture.

So you enact bad faith tactics by focusing on something in a vacuum, while ignoring the greater context.
 
LV426 said:
The real issue is that we have a record budget deficit that was created by the tax cut passed by the people who stapled teabags to their faces 10 years ago because of the record budget deficits.

That issue gets to the sincerity and credibility of the Conservatives; people who postured over the deficit and debt, but then immediately expanded both when given the chance after promising not to and making that promise central to their characters.

THAT is the issue here.
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That was not the issue. You have made it the issue in order to divert from the rather simple post about conservatives who are critical of the deficit.

Why are you obsessed with stapling teabags to faces? None of the people involved in cutting taxes stapled any tea bags.

Ten years ago Donald Trump was giving campaign contributions to Hillary and other Democrats.

Nobody argues that Democrats and Republicans lack credibility on fiscal matters---politicians are more popular when they are spending money and cutting taxes.
 
Flash said:
You have made it the issue in order to divert from the rather simple post about conservatives who are critical of the deficit.
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No, you tried to divert by posting links you didn't even read.

The issue is clearly laid out in the OP: A record budget deficit that is because of Conservative policy.

You're the one who is trying to hijack this thread by weakly defending Conservatives along bad faith terms.
 
Flash said:
Why are you obsessed with stapling teabags to faces? None of the people involved in cutting taxes stapled any tea bags.
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Sure they did.

These people stapled teabags to their faces to prove that they were steaming, teabaggingly mad about budget deficits.

Then, at the first opportunity, they expand the deficit by cutting taxes.

So all the shit they've been teabagging about the last ten years is bullshit because their actions don't align with their bleating, do they?
 
Flash said:
Ten years ago Donald Trump was giving campaign contributions to Hillary and other Democrats.
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Talk about a diversion!

What does this have to do with Conservatives screeching about deficits and then expanding those deficits 10 years later?
 
Flash said:
Nobody argues that Democrats and Republicans lack credibility on fiscal matter
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I do.

I argue Conservatives lack credibility on fiscal matters and I use the current, expanded, record budget deficits as the proof.

I use the failure to meet the 3% growth last year as the proof.

I use the slow pace of job growth and the slow pace of wage growth for 99% of workers as proof.

I use the record trade deficit as proof.

I use the fact that 2018 saw 2% fewer revenues than 2017 as the proof.

Shall I keep going?
 
Flash said:
politicians are more popular when they are spending money and cutting taxes.
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So then you're saying Conservatives only railed about budget deficits to get elected and aren't sincere in their policy.

I would agree with that; Conservative economic policy is without merit.

But because Conservative policy lacks merit doesn't mean liberal policy also lacks merit. You seem to think it does because of the bothsiderism disease you have.
 
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